Topic 'Re: Geez....' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21075878 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:22:26 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:22:26 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21098763 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21098763 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:24:02 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21088486 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21088486 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:19:29 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21087523 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21087523 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:36:02 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21087501 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21087501 Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:32:48 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21085150 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21085150 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:45:51 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21085098 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21085098 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:38:12 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21084608 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21084608 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:20:09 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21081033 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21081033 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:54:46 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21080620
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thanks for the info though. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21080620 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:47:55 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21080442
If you want to get a dry loop to run DSL over, under no circumstance can you run it through the CO. Line is too long. The idea would be to run it to someone downstream or upstream on the same trunk line as you. That can generate 1000-9000 foot loops which is the limit for DIY DSL. Your better off trying to get to someone with cable rather than DSL. Get an additional cable modem for that location, on a separate account (try "Apt 1" or a separate name) and separate billing address and dont send the bill to the service address. No problems with late bill paying/splitting the bill.

To run a dry loop inter CO like you want, I doubt its possible legally or physically to run a loop like that (inter-CO without going through COs). Legal BS might be stuff like a separate bell operating company / franchise / permit / LLC / LATA/etc. Physical problems can be no place where your trunk line going upstream is 0, 1 or 2 poles away from a trunk line going to the other C0. If your upstream trunk line doesn't magically/seamlessly turn into a downstream trunk line further down the road towards the other CO, you will get hit with $1000s in engineering charges (labor starts at $63 an hour per worker for Verizon here, just get a T1, it will be cheaper) since no physical connection exists, and many many new lines will have to be run along poles to create a path to the other trunk line, which probably means your loop is too long now and no DSL. This is assuming they won't tell you to screw yourself and get a house to CO, CO to CO, CO to house set up, which they can.

Cost wise, intra-office dry loops run under $100 per month per pair usually, so they are very affordable.

Remember the idea behind DIY DSL, is to create a DIY DSL link over a short dry copper loop that doesn't go through a CO to a location that has internet. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21080442 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:02:27 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21080005
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Getting a pair of WRT54G's (or GS's), re-flash them with DD-WRT, and build a cheap bridge between a friends' house and yours. Oh, and a pair of Cantennas or some sort of directional antenna for each router.

..of course, with the right directional antennas, you can go a few miles.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21079756 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:54:33 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21079736 Verizon, AT&T Offer New DSL Promotions forum where i was posting as disapointed in my last post i talked about my house being up for sale check them out,and i have reduced the listing price as far as IM going to,and why do you want a link to my house its none of your business,nor is how much i want for it

»Comcast: a Naked AT&T Is No Threat
Whether you can get "naked DSL" from AT&T varies from market to market. The company plans to offer $20 768kbps naked service across its entire footprint before the end of the year to comply with BellSouth merger conditions. BellSouth users say anyone can get naked DSL in BellSouth territory if you call up and ask for "bundle 97."

as i said before do a little research first before you talk out your ass dsl will not be a luxury much longer they have to provide dsl to all customers ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21079736 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 23:51:19 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21079138 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21079138 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:10:14 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21078203 When this house, MY house, was purchased, it had nothing.
Not even phone!
But, since it was well within the city limits, getting phone(and all other services) was relatively easy.
Location Location Location.

As for why your house won't sell, what's the asking price?
Is it actually worth what you are asking?
Where is it listed?
Got Link?
Show me!

Look pal, it's not my fault that you are "unaware" of the realities of living out away from city luxuries.
Broadband *IS* a luxury BTW.
If the house is not within a certain distance... and it is going to be the only residence utilizing the connection, that makes it unprofitable for the service provider.
Not my fault!
I am just trying to explain to you the options you currently have. Which aint alot!

Further down this very page, you post EXACTLY what I have suggested - YOU pay for the cable to be extended to the house.
Deja vu, huh?

Hook me up with the listing for your house...
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Look friend, I am sorry they will not service you where you live.
Question for you... do you actually think posting here is going to get AT&T or whomever to connect you any faster or at all?

now why would i think posting in here would help me get dsl any quicker.I as a American have the right of freedom of speech to use however i want to if you don't like my post then oh well DONT reply to them

I'm sorry splat, but it isn't helping anyone to be here condemning AT&T for not extending their lines and adding a RT just for you.

I tired of replying to your selective reading IM not the only one that lives on this road,and i can say whatever i want to about at&t dsl and cable is all the way around me,and have been told to wait they will get it to me

How about you call them and offer to pay for the new RT that they seem to think isn't worth it?

I have called at&t,and they wont even let me talk to anyone that knows what they are talking about to tell me a def. date.I did ask if i could pay for equipment they said that i couldn't do that they didn't let anyone do that.I did talk to charter and they want 10,000 to extend to me they said that they were not adding new customers anywhere they didn't already have lines up

Fine!
You live there for whatever reason and have no intention of moving. Cool!
Well guess what, ya might be in for a wait - possibly indefinitely to get DSL.
This is all I am trying to get across to you.

Reality bites sometimes. :o
Sorry!

where did you get that i had no intention of moving it certainly wasn't from me.I have been trying to move for two years(if you would read ALL of my post you would know that.you cant sell a house that doesn't have internet,cable,and barley cell service, you would not buy a house like that would you. I asked that nobody post stupid quotes like move,or you chose to live where you live so deal with it.I deserve decent internet just like anyone else,and should not be treated like trash just because of where i live.you don't know my situation IM prob. just as urban as you.IM at the bottom end of my county, right at the county line(the ass end)where we get forgot about]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21077776 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:56:53 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21077586 said by morbo:

have you thought about the dual-modems? supposedly it takes your two phone lines and automagically combines it so you have about double the speed of one modem.

i don't have any experience with this, but i always wondered what i would do if i was in your situation.
Shotgun modems require two phone lines, and a double-dialup account (if anyone still sells them). If the OP ordered a second phone line, Verizon would install it on a DAML (line splitter), and the effective potential throughput of the line would be halved ... at four times the price!

The best options for this guy are IDSL (doubtful), moving (why not?), EVDO, or as another poster suggested, making friends with someone at the end of the broadband chain and installing a WiFi link. 1700' is very, very achievable.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21077586 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:16:36 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21077395 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21077395 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 16:41:13 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076963
At that rate it'd probably be cheaper and in better speeds to jump on the wireless broadband bandwagon. I'd assume any of these places that people can't get squat are at least served by 1xRTT or EDGE which is on par or better than dialup.
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I'm sorry splat, but it isn't helping anyone to be here condemning AT&T for not extending their lines and adding a RT just for you.

How about you call them and offer to pay for the new RT that they seem to think isn't worth it?

Fine!
You live there for whatever reason and have no intention of moving. Cool!
Well guess what, ya might be in for a wait - possibly indefinitely to get DSL.
This is all I am trying to get across to you.

Reality bites sometimes. :o
Sorry!

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i don't have any experience with this, but i always wondered what i would do if i was in your situation. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076443 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:36:23 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076278 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076278 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:07:39 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076203 said by DrModem:

said by S_engineer:

Is anybody left on the old dial up besides AOL customers?
26k here. Being in nowhere sucks.
Being in nowhere actually sounds good to me right now, the city is literally killing me!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076203 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:55:10 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076199 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076199 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:54:47 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076117 said by splat1622:

yes lot of people.dsl stops 1700 feet from me,and IM about 3 1/2 miles from the co,and cable is 1 1/2 miles from me on the same road.to stop all the stupid comments such as just move or you decided to move there.I moved here in 1988 when there was no internet or cell phones,and this property has been in the family for many years,and was about to be lost when we moved here and took over payments,and even in 2008 we still have no cable,dsl,and no cell service
Welcome to DSLReports! :)

Well, then there ya go friend.
No amount of posting here will change the fact that the service providers - DSL or cable - do not see you as profitable enough to extend their lines to provide you with something better than what you currently have(Sat, right?).

Sorry for the dilemma, but other than paying for the extension yourself(thousands of dollars I imagine), I doubt that the ISPs will do it. :(

As I stated last time... I have relatives that can't get anything better than 24kbps dialup.
Sat is not an option for them - LOS is blocked and the price is a hell of a deterrent even if it was doable.

So, with them as is with you - at this point in time, the only options are pay for it to be extended or... move. Right? :hmm:
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Is anybody left on the old dial up besides AOL customers?
26k here. Being in nowhere sucks.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076021 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:19:34 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076000 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21076000 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:16:20 EDT Re: Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21075918
But if people want to get off it and move to cable, that's just more bandwidth for me!

:)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Geez-21075918 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:58:22 EDT Geez.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Geez-21075878 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Geez-21075878 Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:51:23 EDT