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CKizer
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reply to GDJ Service
Re: do company servers know where you've been?

^ totally useless when the workstations themselves are monitored.

»www.spector360.com/

Oh yeah, tampering with, including removing, disabling, or blocking the monitoring software is grounds for immediate termination.
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reply to sfogliatelle
As a rule of thumb all activity on the web is recorded, sometimes more than once. Google keeps its records for 10 years.

If you want to surf without any trace then you have to have a good proxy system. But if you browse with your local browser and a proxy it is the same you still can be traced and logged.
Never use free proxy's as you don't know who is sitting on the exit.

Go to
»www.yourprivacy.tk

They might have a solution. A portable SSH Tunnel system with Firefox.


NetFixer
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reply to Kiwi
said by Kiwi See Profile :

I can't see anybody objecting to reasonable use, if it's reasonable why worry?
Of course what is reasonable is determined by the owner of the network. In my work I connect to many corporate and DoD networks, and it might surprise you how many of them block access to broadbandreports.com and dslreports.com.

Of course when a site is actually blocked, you at least get some immediate feedback that you are doing something verboten. If the employer only tracks usage, but does not have a published policy regarding non-work internet usage, an employee can get a nasty surprise come evaluation time (or possibly at the next post-merger or market downturn layoff time).
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reply to sfogliatelle
said by sfogliatelle See Profile :

said by scelli See Profile :

However, you must admit the comment below (in bold italics) copied directly from your initial posting invokes thoughts of a person more concerned about trying to cover his or her tracks rather than somebody interested in maintaining a lean, mean computer machine:

My question is: short of server sabotage (and abstinence towards my fave links), what can I do to either minimize or mask my browsing?
Yeah, I can understand where a statement like that can be interpreted as someone who's got something they'd rather not have others know about or shine an unnecessary light on to investigate.

While it's certainly no defense, it's a safe bet I'm not the only employee out there who has a few favorite diversionary sites they like to visit from time to time.
No you are not, I'm beginning to see the picture, but Admin Rights verse a Network Admin are two different animals. I can't see anybody objecting to reasonable use, if it's reasonable why worry?


sfogliatelle
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reply to scelli
said by scelli See Profile :

However, you must admit the comment below (in bold italics) copied directly from your initial posting invokes thoughts of a person more concerned about trying to cover his or her tracks rather than somebody interested in maintaining a lean, mean computer machine:

My question is: short of server sabotage (and abstinence towards my fave links), what can I do to either minimize or mask my browsing?
Yeah, I can understand where a statement like that can be interpreted as someone who's got something they'd rather not have others know about or shine an unnecessary light on to investigate.

While it's certainly no defense, it's a safe bet I'm not the only employee out there who has a few favorite diversionary sites they like to visit from time to time.


Maccawolf
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reply to Kearnstd
I have yet to come across a blocked site at work. (not that I'm trying to find them...)

A friend of mine is blocked from fatwallet.COM, but can get on to fatwallet.NET.....
He's in the military, that should explain a lot...
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scelli
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reply to sfogliatelle
said by sfogliatelle See Profile :

It's not that I'm attempting to cover my tracks. It's just plain maintenance and housekeeping. I've seen many a computer where performance has ground to a virtual halt due to stuff not getting cleaned out (temp files, old restore points, lack of defragging).
The above might very well be true. However, you must admit the comment below (in bold italics) copied directly from your initial posting invokes thoughts of a person more concerned about trying to cover his or her tracks rather than somebody interested in maintaining a lean, mean computer machine:

My question is: short of server sabotage (and abstinence towards my fave links), what can I do to either minimize or mask my browsing?
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Kearnstd
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reply to sfogliatelle
i always imagine that im being tracked, that said at work i come here and goto some game related sites(that arent websensed). oddly enough we dont have Youtube blocked.
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sfogliatelle
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said by EGeezer See Profile :

Just don't put up a webcam and clean yourself in front of it.

And get off my leg!!!!
Admit it; you're just jealous 'cause I can lick my privates and you can't!


EGeezer
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reply to sfogliatelle
Just don't put up a webcam and clean yourself in front of it.

And get off my leg!!!!


sfogliatelle
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reply to MeanPeepsSuk
Re: do company servers know where you've been?


brak bark woof woof anonymity
You know, it's kinda too late for an alibi now

Yeah. Well, at least here my true identity is preserved.


MeanPeepsSuk
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reply to sfogliatelle
said by sfogliatelle See Profile :

It's not that I'm attempting to cover my tracks. It's just plain maintenance and housekeeping. I've seen many a computer where performance has ground to a virtual halt due to stuff not getting cleaned out (temp files, old restore points, lack of defragging).
You know, it's kinda too late for an alibi now.

j/k

dave
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reply to sfogliatelle
At this point, I'd like to take a moment to say 'Hi' to all the people watching in our corporate IT department.

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Hi, guys. How's it going?

Did I ever tell you I think you're all swell fellows?


sfogliatelle
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reply to sfogliatelle
It's not that I'm attempting to cover my tracks. It's just plain maintenance and housekeeping. I've seen many a computer where performance has ground to a virtual halt due to stuff not getting cleaned out (temp files, old restore points, lack of defragging).

Sorry, [JohnInSJ], I still haven't gotten the hang of the new 'qreply' feature here.


sfogliatelle
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reply to JohnInSJ
said by JohnInSJ See Profile :

Yes, the company knows where you've been - as others have pointed out, that information isn't on your PC, it's on the gateway, the proxy, etc.

Don't waste your time covering your tracks. Either just surf as desired and damn the torpedoes, use a coworker's computer (:p) or don't do it. But you probably waste more time covering your tracks the the odd peek now and then at a non-work-related site.


JohnInSJ
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reply to sfogliatelle
Yes, the company knows where you've been - as others have pointed out, that information isn't on your PC, it's on the gateway, the proxy, etc.

I know where my kid's been on the internets. Its not rocket science. And no, there's no way for the kid to bypass the proxy/gateway with its logs (and filters) short of not using the internet connection @ the house. It took me all of 5 minutes to set it up, it takes no time at all to read the daily email list of top sites visited ranked by time/bytes transferred/number of visits.

Don't waste your time covering your tracks. Either just surf as desired and damn the torpedoes, use a coworker's computer (:p) or don't do it. But you probably waste more time covering your tracks the the odd peek now and then at a non-work-related site.
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CKizer
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reply to MeanPeepsSuk
said by MeanPeepsSuk See Profile :

Don't let the fact that nothing seems blocked, and no one has said anything lull you into a false sense of security. Everything going out of that wire on their network is being logged.

Some management take the approach of allowing a small amount of transgressions (provided it's not network impacting). Kind of like the line between too many personal calls at work. Many do actively monitor and are aware, but won't say anything unless you get out of hand. Some just do spot checks. Even the ones that don't actively monitor, can and will review your history should you be put on the radar.

I've seen varied ways management views and ways to handle this. While you'd hope they would say something if they had issue (and many do), I've seen others who treat it all as a way of giving their employees enough rope to hang themselves.

Then there is the other class I've seen.... The ones who stores it all up, fully aware and says nothing.. but keeps it on file if they ever need it for a legal excuse for an action not in your favor (up to termination). I've seen some who will pull out stuff from years ago for this very purpose.
This is EXACTLY how it is done!
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reply to sfogliatelle
said by sfogliatelle See Profile :

So far, there's not been a single mention made of the non-work related sites I go to. Heck, for all I know, the boss doesn't have the tech savvy to read the server log files.
Don't let the fact that nothing seems blocked, and no one has said anything lull you into a false sense of security. Everything going out of that wire on their network is being logged.

Some management take the approach of allowing a small amount of transgressions (provided it's not network impacting). Kind of like the line between too many personal calls at work. Many do actively monitor and are aware, but won't say anything unless you get out of hand. Some just do spot checks. Even the ones that don't actively monitor, can and will review your history should you be put on the radar.

I've seen varied ways management views and ways to handle this. While you'd hope they would say something if they had issue (and many do), I've seen others who treat it all as a way of giving their employees enough rope to hang themselves.

Then there is the other class I've seen.... The ones who stores it all up, fully aware and says nothing.. but keeps it on file if they ever need it for a legal excuse for an action not in your favor (up to termination). I've seen some who will pull out stuff from years ago for this very purpose.

Your particular employer might not be watching or care. Just be aware that this goes on.

edit: fixed missing word


sfogliatelle
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reply to caffeinator
Well, it looks like I've been exposed for the subversive I am. You're right. I'm the reason why this country is in the sad shape it's in.

Take a chill pill, dude. Way too much coffee for you!


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reply to sfogliatelle
Why is this a topic?

He's doing stuff he knows he should not be doing on COMPANY time. He just wants an out.

Welcome to why the rest of the G8 world is kicking our corporate asses, if not buying it outright from under us.

We have no work ethic anymore.

End of story.

And, OP, if you think you are smarter than the sysAd's..try doing their job for a day.

G'Day and GL, keep that resume polished.

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