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Austinloop join:2001-08-19 Austin, TX	My non gps phone Guess that I will keep my non-gps phone for a while. It does all I want, i.e. make and receive calls. "They" may know what tower I use, but that is it.
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tiger72 SexaT duorP Premium join:2001-03-28 Saint Louis, MO clubs:	Re: My non gps phone many phones have very simple gps implementations that can be tracked. Every phone can be triangulated to within 1/2 a mile easily. Download google maps for mobile to see google maps triangulate your position. Works best when you're moving...
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wifi4milez Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace join:2004-08-07 New York, NY	Unless your phone is more than 3 years old, it likely has a GPS chip in it. All cell phones are required to provide some sort of location based services for E911, and GPS is the most widely used in the US.
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Austinloop join:2001-08-19 Austin, TX	Re: My non gps phone It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.
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It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.

What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.
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I have a non-GPS Kyocera 2235 that was made in 2002.

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said by Austinloop

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It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.

What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.

GSM phones don't even need GPS at all. They use TDOA triangulation for 911. My AT&T LG CU515 which i got this year has no GPS chip. My Sprint and Nextel phone however does. But AT&T and T-Mobile don't use GPS to determine 911 location

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said by Austinloop

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It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.

What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.

Thats a broad, but incorrect statement. Some GSM handsets use TDOA, while others use GPS. Still others use AoA technology to determine your location. It all depends on the manufacturer and how they designed the phone.
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iLive4Apple Hybrid power Premium join:2006-07-13 Helena, AL ·Verizon BroadbandA.. ·Charter Pipeline ·AT&T Southeast ·ViaTalk	Re: My non gps phone A phone will only use what the carrier supports. If AT&T hasn't implemented an A-GPS server to connect to E911 it's not going to utilize the GPS chip in the phone. AFAIK AT&T and T-Mobile have only deployed TDOA based E911 technologies right now. Sprint/Nextel, Verizon and the rest of the CDMA carriers use Qualcom based A-GPS/AOA for E911.
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A phone will only use what the carrier supports. If AT&T hasn't implemented an A-GPS server to connect to E911 it's not going to utilize the GPS chip in the phone. AFAIK AT&T and T-Mobile have only deployed TDOA based E911 technologies right now. Sprint/Nextel, Verizon and the rest of the CDMA carriers use Qualcom based A-GPS/AOA for E911.

Again, I need to disagree. The iphone has A-GPS, as do a few other ATT phones. In fact, ATT just had a press release that they use A-GPS in their phones the other day. It looks like they officially started offering it last month, but now most of their phones will likely have it.
»www.prdomain.com/companies/A/AT&···1831.htm
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said by Austinloop

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It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.

Until you start moving. Then you'll see the accuracy begin to increase. In other words, if you're sitting somewhere, then you're fine. If you're driving somewhere to meet a hooker, then you might want to be worried.
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morbo Complete Your Transaction join:2002-01-22 00000 clubs:	Re: My non gps phone you should also be worried if the hooker has a cell phone. maybe hers has a GPS chip in it. you should probably add that to your question list for future hookers.
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Maxo Your tax dollars at work. Premium,VIP join:2002-11-04 Tallahassee, FL clubs:	said by tiger72 : If you're driving somewhere to meet a hooker, then you might want to be worried. Crap, now I'm really worried.
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ninjatutle Premium join:2006-01-02 San Ramon, CA	What they'll find from my GPS location is that I'm a lazy mofo that never leaves the fort
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