wifi4milez
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Re: My non gps phone
said by iLive4Apple  :A phone will only use what the carrier supports. If AT&T hasn't implemented an A-GPS server to connect to E911 it's not going to utilize the GPS chip in the phone. AFAIK AT&T and T-Mobile have only deployed TDOA based E911 technologies right now. Sprint/Nextel, Verizon and the rest of the CDMA carriers use Qualcom based A-GPS/AOA for E911. Again, I need to disagree. The iphone has A-GPS, as do a few other ATT phones. In fact, ATT just had a press release that they use A-GPS in their phones the other day. It looks like they officially started offering it last month, but now most of their phones will likely have it.
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iLive4Apple
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A phone will only use what the carrier supports. If AT&T hasn't implemented an A-GPS server to connect to E911 it's not going to utilize the GPS chip in the phone. AFAIK AT&T and T-Mobile have only deployed TDOA based E911 technologies right now. Sprint/Nextel, Verizon and the rest of the CDMA carriers use Qualcom based A-GPS/AOA for E911. |
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wifi4milez
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said by iLive4Apple :said by wifi4milez :said by Austinloop :It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city. What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002. GSM phones don't even need GPS at all. They use TDOA triangulation for 911. My AT&T LG CU515 which i got this year has no GPS chip. My Sprint and Nextel phone however does. But AT&T and T-Mobile don't use GPS to determine 911 location Thats a broad, but incorrect statement. Some GSM handsets use TDOA, while others use GPS. Still others use AoA technology to determine your location. It all depends on the manufacturer and how they designed the phone.
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iLive4Apple
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said by wifi4milez :said by Austinloop :It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city. What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002. GSM phones don't even need GPS at all. They use TDOA triangulation for 911. My AT&T LG CU515 which i got this year has no GPS chip. My Sprint and Nextel phone however does. But AT&T and T-Mobile don't use GPS to determine 911 location |
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Maxo
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said by tiger72 :If you're driving somewhere to meet a hooker, then you might want to be worried. Crap, now I'm really worried. |
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morbo
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you should also be worried if the hooker has a cell phone. maybe hers has a GPS chip in it. you should probably add that to your question list for future hookers. |
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Bobcat
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I have a non-GPS Kyocera 2235 that was made in 2002. |
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tiger72
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said by Austinloop :It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city. Until you start moving. Then you'll see the accuracy begin to increase. In other words, if you're sitting somewhere, then you're fine. If you're driving somewhere to meet a hooker, then you might want to be worried.
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wifi4milez
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said by Austinloop :It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city. What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.
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Austinloop
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Austin, TX | reply to wifi4milez
It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city. |
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ninjatutle
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San Ramon, CA | reply to Austinloop
What they'll find from my GPS location is that I'm a lazy mofo that never leaves the fort  |
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wifi4milez
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New York, NY | reply to Austinloop
Unless your phone is more than 3 years old, it likely has a GPS chip in it. All cell phones are required to provide some sort of location based services for E911, and GPS is the most widely used in the US. |
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tiger72
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many phones have very simple gps implementations that can be tracked. Every phone can be triangulated to within 1/2 a mile easily. Download google maps for mobile to see google maps triangulate your position. Works best when you're moving... |
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Austinloop
join:2001-08-19
Austin, TX | Guess that I will keep my non-gps phone for a while. It does all I want, i.e. make and receive calls. "They" may know what tower I use, but that is it. |
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