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wifi4milez
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Re: My non gps phone

Unless your phone is more than 3 years old, it likely has a GPS chip in it. All cell phones are required to provide some sort of location based services for E911, and GPS is the most widely used in the US.
permalink · 2008-09-08 18:58:24 · Reply to this
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It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.
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Re: My non gps phone

said by Austinloop See Profile :

It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.
What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.
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Re: My non gps phone

I have a non-GPS Kyocera 2235 that was made in 2002.
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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by Austinloop See Profile :

It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.
What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.
GSM phones don't even need GPS at all. They use TDOA triangulation for 911. My AT&T LG CU515 which i got this year has no GPS chip. My Sprint and Nextel phone however does. But AT&T and T-Mobile don't use GPS to determine 911 location
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Re: My non gps phone

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said by wifi4milez See Profile :

said by Austinloop See Profile :

It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.
What specific phone is it? Some phones have had GPS chips in them (Nextel for example) since 2002.
GSM phones don't even need GPS at all. They use TDOA triangulation for 911. My AT&T LG CU515 which i got this year has no GPS chip. My Sprint and Nextel phone however does. But AT&T and T-Mobile don't use GPS to determine 911 location
Thats a broad, but incorrect statement. Some GSM handsets use TDOA, while others use GPS. Still others use AoA technology to determine your location. It all depends on the manufacturer and how they designed the phone.
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Re: My non gps phone

A phone will only use what the carrier supports. If AT&T hasn't implemented an A-GPS server to connect to E911 it's not going to utilize the GPS chip in the phone. AFAIK AT&T and T-Mobile have only deployed TDOA based E911 technologies right now. Sprint/Nextel, Verizon and the rest of the CDMA carriers use Qualcom based A-GPS/AOA for E911.
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said by iLive4Apple See Profile :

A phone will only use what the carrier supports. If AT&T hasn't implemented an A-GPS server to connect to E911 it's not going to utilize the GPS chip in the phone. AFAIK AT&T and T-Mobile have only deployed TDOA based E911 technologies right now. Sprint/Nextel, Verizon and the rest of the CDMA carriers use Qualcom based A-GPS/AOA for E911.
Again, I need to disagree. The iphone has A-GPS, as do a few other ATT phones. In fact, ATT just had a press release that they use A-GPS in their phones the other day. It looks like they officially started offering it last month, but now most of their phones will likely have it.
»www.prdomain.com/companies/A/AT&···1831.htm
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said by Austinloop See Profile :

It is more than 3 years old and works just fine, no GPS. Within 1/2 mile is a lot of space in my current city.
Until you start moving. Then you'll see the accuracy begin to increase. In other words, if you're sitting somewhere, then you're fine. If you're driving somewhere to meet a hooker, then you might want to be worried.
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you should also be worried if the hooker has a cell phone. maybe hers has a GPS chip in it. you should probably add that to your question list for future hookers.
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If you're driving somewhere to meet a hooker, then you might want to be worried.
Crap, now I'm really worried.
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