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DS
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New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

....RUMOUR HAS IT....
....NEW FASTPATH ON ADSL2+ PROFILES....
....NO MORE FORCED INTERLEAVE....

This is very important to gamers, as it means lower latency then the standard profiles for 7Meg and upwards.

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Upload Speed: 883 kbps (110.4 KB/sec transfer rate)

theninjasqua

join:2007-09-26
Oakville, ON

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

Where is this news coming from?
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-theninjasquad

DS
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Inside source; as before there was just interleave profiles for ADSL2+, now there are FastPath profiles for every ADSL2+ profile from 7Meg up-to 16Meg.

jessegr

join:2005-03-05
Gatineau, QC
they might save themselves.

gochewy

@bell.ca
so this is just a rumour right? has anyone actually placed on ADSL2+ fastpath? can anyone confirm this?
cosmofairly

join:2008-08-12
Toronto, ON
Yeah, that would be good news since I just got on ADSL2+ and I hate seeing "interleaved" on my line stats...
donkies

join:2008-04-08
what about us suckers on adsl2+ that are only on the 5/.8 profile?

dark man x

join:2002-09-01
Scarborough, ON

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i am on adsl2+ fastpath
snickersee

join:2007-07-19
XXXXXX
Do we have to request this or is it done automatically?

DS
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Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

You have to request it, I am on ADSL2+ fastpath and it is working allot better.

dark man x

join:2002-09-01
Scarborough, ON
mine was automatic, when i first go 7meg like 3 months ago i was on interleaved but its been changed to fastpath
snickersee

join:2007-07-19
XXXXXX
just created a thread in the direct forum to get that done.
Mont

join:2006-05-02
How do i check the profile on a 2wire.

DS
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Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

Don't think you can for the Bell 2Wire, I have checked the hidden stats page tenfold and I can't find anything that may help.

try

@videotron.net

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

might be on J=2 or J=3

DS
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Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

no go

try

@videotron.net

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

hmmm J03?

I think that maybe interleave and fast path maaaaay be reported as a value instead of the words :/
donkies

join:2008-04-08
at least on a 2700HG-B Gateway, it clearly shows interleaved on:

»home/xslt?PAGE=J02&THISPAGE=A02_···PAGE=J02

DS
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Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

True, that is because it's an unlocked modem.

Glen1
These Are The Good Ol' Days.
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join:2002-05-24
GTA Canada
I would like to see some tracert comparisons between a fastpath profile and an interleave profile for latency.
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My Canada includes Quebec.
andrewsfm

join:2004-07-16
Toronto
Shouldn't a properly configured ADSL2+ profile be 7040/1088?

TSI Martin
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Chatham, ON
·Broadvox Direct
·Bell Sympatico

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

From my time working there & changing profiles.... I've never seen a properly working adsl2 profile.

Best I've seen was 7296/9**

What I'd like to see is like Glen said... a Interleave profile Trace & a Fastpath Trace. Until then I think we won't really be able to compare.
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Regards,
Martin
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TSI Martin - Teksavvy Solutions Inc.

Angelo_
The Network Guy
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join:2002-06-18

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

i'd love to see a tracert, also do you know what line card you are connected to?

TSI Martin
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join:2006-02-23
Chatham, ON

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

any (new) line cards installed nowadays are VDSL. But with how bell is turning the dsl service into a dial up service... will that actually be necessary.

Ihategoodprofile

@anonymouse.org

I had a 7296/1088 profile for over two months.. there's Screenshots of it posted here in the Sympatico Forum.
I don't know why it's so hard for Bell to set a profile properly. I did have to call and swear a lot though, that may be why they got it right..
snickersee

join:2007-07-19
XXXXXX
·voip.ms
·Bell Sympatico

It's about 8-10 ms difference to the first hop, but here it is.

1 home (192.168.1.1) 1.669 ms 0.910 ms 1.732 ms
2 bas2-toronto21_lo0_SYMP.net.bell.ca (64.230.197.191) 16.049 ms 17.566 ms 17.737 ms
3 core2-toronto63_13-0-9_147.net.bell.ca (64.230.139.129) 15.756 ms 15.859 ms 15.701 ms
4 core4-toronto21_POS0-4-1-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.158.237) 15.466 ms 15.825 ms 15.694 ms
5 core2-chicago23_POS12-0-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.138.94) 25.487 ms 25.607 ms 25.929 ms
6 bx6-chicago23_POS0-3-0-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.186.202) 33.224 ms 31.276 ms 29.732 ms
7 te1-1.ccr02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.29) 27.414 ms 27.454 ms 27.824 ms
8 te1-3.mpd01.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.17) 41.187 ms 41.717 ms 41.099 ms

DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol: G.DMT2+ Annex A
Downstream Rate: 7292 kbps
Upstream Rate: 1032 kbps
Channel: Interleaved
Current Noise Margin: 25.2 dB (Downstream), 7.1 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation: 14.4 dB (Downstream), 2.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power: 8.8 dBm (Downstream), 11.4 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information: Country: {0xFF} Vendor: {GSPN} Specific: {0x1000}
PVC Info: 0/35
Mont

join:2006-05-02
So if i have a 2wire i can't check ?
snickersee

join:2007-07-19
XXXXXX
·voip.ms
·Bell Sympatico

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

said by Mont See Profile :

So if i have a 2wire i can't check ?
yeah if it is the locked version given by Bell, yes. My modem is in my drawer collecting dust after I found out how crippled the modem is in terms of getting line stats, etc.

Deadpool
Go Sens Go
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join:2001-03-29
Canada
I can confirm that this thread is true.
Mont

join:2006-05-02
Can someone check and tell me on what profile im on ?
snickersee

join:2007-07-19
XXXXXX
·voip.ms
·Bell Sympatico

nice!!! thanks for the tip.

DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol: G.DMT2+ Annex A
Downstream Rate: 7294 kbps
Upstream Rate: 1020 kbps
Channel: Fast
Current Noise Margin: 24.3 dB (Downstream), 7.2 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation: 14.4 dB (Downstream), 2.1 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power: 8.8 dBm (Downstream), 11.3 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information: Country: {0xFF} Vendor: {GSPN} Specific: {0x1000}
PVC Info: 0/35

DS
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Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)


I may not work for bell, but I do like to help folks out when I can.
andrewsfm

join:2004-07-16
Toronto

said by snickersee See Profile :

Protocol: G.DMT2+ Annex A
Downstream Rate: 7294 kbps
Upstream Rate: 1020 kbps
Channel: Fast
Current Noise Margin: 24.3 dB (Downstream), 7.2 dB (Upstream)
Another ADSL2+ profile that's not configured to the actual profile bitrate, and just squeezing by on the upstream noise margin.

DS
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Thunder Bay, ON

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

I have been made aware that at least upstream SNR levels are not absolute when under ADSL2+.
cosmofairly

join:2008-08-12
Toronto, ON
So does this mean we should all flood the direct support thread for fast path requests?
EcHoMaN

join:2003-05-04
Toronto, ON

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

said by cosmofairly See Profile :

So does this mean we should all flood the direct support thread for fast path requests?
Jyup.
XDSLTECH1

join:2004-12-11
Burlington, ON

All new 7m connections are default Fast Path.
I don't think the old 7m Interleaved will be changed to 7m fast without a specific request from the customer.

10,12,16 are still defaulted to Interleaved.
You will need to call in and request Fast to get it.

CigaR
Premium
join:2004-08-24

Re: New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT)

Any reason as to why ADSL2+ profiles were initially on interleave ?
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