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<title>New Development For ADSL2+ (EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT) in Bell Canada</title>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1485953"><b>impalass1369</b></A> : I am on a 6MB line.<br>C:\Documents and Settings\pop>tracert dslreports.com<br><br>Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]<br>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br><br>  1    1 ms    1 ms    1 ms  192.168.2.1<br>  2    11 ms     8 ms     8 ms  64.230.197.82<br>  3     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  dis3-montrealak_Vlan103.net.bell.ca [64.230.227.<br>221]<br>  4     7 ms     6 ms     6 ms  core3-montrealak_GE2-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.240.5<br>7]<br>  5    15 ms    14 ms    15 ms  core2-newyork83_pos14-0-0_core.net.bell.ca [64.2<br>30.207.158]<br>  6    15 ms    14 ms    14 ms  bx4-newyork83_pos_4_0_0.net.bell.ca [64.230.187.<br>22]<br>  7    15 ms    16 ms    15 ms  new3-bell-canada-1-ca.new.seabone.net [195.22.21<br>6.129]<br>  8    15 ms    15 ms    15 ms  customer-side-netaccess-1-new3.new.seabone.net [<br>195.22.216.214]<br>  9    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  0.e1-4.tbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.122]<br> 10    16 ms    16 ms    21 ms  vlan804.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.2]<br> 11    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1485953"><b>impalass1369</b></A> : Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]<br>(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.<br><br>C:\Documents and Settings\pop>tracert dslreports.com<br><br>Tracing route to dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]<br>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br><br>  1    ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:30:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635466"><b>Glen1</b></A> : Here is my trace to DSL Reports via a 10 Meg fastpath profile:<br><br>C:\tracert www.dslreports.com<br><br>Tracing route to www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]<br>over a maximum of 30 hops:<br><br>  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1<br>  2     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  XXXXXXXXXXXX<br>  3     9 ms     9 ms     9 ms  xxxxxxxxxxxx<br>  4    10 ms    10 ms     9 ms  core4-toronto21_POS0-4-1-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.158.237]<br>  5    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  core2-chicago23_POS12-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.138.94]<br>  6    20 ms    19 ms    20 ms  bx3-chicagodt_so-1-0-0-0.net.bell.ca [64.230.203.42]<br>  7    22 ms    20 ms    20 ms  chi-bb1-link.telia.net [213.248.85.25]<br>  8    34 ms    34 ms    33 ms  nyk-bb1-pos0-3-0.telia.net [213.248.80.154]<br>  9    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  nyk-b3-link.telia.net [80.91.250.93]<br> 10    33 ms    33 ms    37 ms  netaccess-114875-nyk-b3.c.telia.net [213.248.83.186]<br> 11    34 ms    34 ms    34 ms  0.e1-1.tbr1.ewr.nac.net [209.123.10.129]<br> 12    35 ms    34 ms    35 ms  0.e-1-1.tbr2.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.21]<br> 13    35 ms    35 ms    35 ms  vlan808.esd1.oct.nac.net [209.123.10.42]<br> 14    34 ms    34 ms    35 ms  www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175]<br><br>Trace complete.<br><small>--<br>My Canada includes Quebec.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:49:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Tekky :</small><br><br>Modern games have more accurate client side prediction and better timing mechanisms built into them so that latency isnt a factor anymore.<br> </div>ummm... yeah.... k. Dare you to make a new topic in this forum saying latency is no longer an issue with Bell since game developers fixed it so that latency is no longer an issue...<br><br>Once you make that topic here, hop over in the teksavvy forum and make another topic and tell the people there they no longer need the premium teksavvy account with premium routing for gaming. Heck you may as well call teksavvy, ask for Rocky and tell him to stop selling premium routed accounts because you have single handley solved all latency issues with your words (which are fulla chit).]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:56:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1485953"><b>impalass1369</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Tekky :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  cosmofairly <A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>For me and a lot of others, the latency is important because of gaming.</div>Then you've been duped into believing something that really has nothing to do with modern day gaming.<br><br>when users were still on dial up modems and some users had DSL/cable solutions, the difference in pings of upwards of 100ms to 200ms did have an impact on the quality of online gaming... but a difference of 10ms to 15ms isn't going to do a thing in today's modern games where multiplayer is a huge facet of development now - sometimes even requiring dedicated teams to program for it instead of it being an afterthought tacked onto a game. <br><br>Modern games have more accurate client side prediction and better timing mechanisms built into them so that latency isnt a factor anymore.<br>You can't click that fast.<br> </div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 06:51:18 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><b>cosmofairly</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Tekky :</small><br><br>Then you've been duped into believing something that really has nothing to do with modern day gaming.<br> </div>Duped into believing?  I think not.  How about seeing is believing?  Like I said in my previous post, it HAS made a significant difference in my gaming.  To be specific, there's a lot less lag, ghosting, etc.  I wasn't just parroting what I've heard else where.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:10:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/818722"><b>andyb</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by Tekky :</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by  cosmofairly <A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A>  :</small><br><br>For me and a lot of others, the latency is important because of gaming.</div>Then you've been duped into believing something that really has nothing to do with modern day gaming.<br><br>when users were still on dial up modems and some users had DSL/cable solutions, the difference in pings of upwards of 100ms to 200ms did have an impact on the quality of online gaming... but a difference of 10ms to 15ms isn't going to do a thing in today's modern games where multiplayer is a huge facet of development now - sometimes even requiring dedicated teams to program for it instead of it being an afterthought tacked onto a game. <br><br>Modern games have more accurate client side prediction and better timing mechanisms built into them so that latency isnt a factor anymore.<br> </div>Who told ya that malarky?Ever tried counterstrike with a 50ms latency?Probably not because your dead as soon as you spawn.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:01:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : I've been a Internet client for awhile now and it has gone up and down, my profile was set to 7Meg Fast Path. I have yet to get at least 10Meg back.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 18:53:10 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : if you got your 7m in about 2+months ago<br>then most likely you are on interleaved path]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 16:59:26 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  cosmofairly <A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>For me and a lot of others, the latency is important because of gaming.</div>Then you've been duped into believing something that really has nothing to do with modern day gaming.<br><br>when users were still on dial up modems and some users had DSL/cable solutions, the difference in pings of upwards of 100ms to 200ms did have an impact on the quality of online gaming... but a difference of 10ms to 15ms isn't going to do a thing in today's modern games where multiplayer is a huge facet of development now - sometimes even requiring dedicated teams to program for it instead of it being an afterthought tacked onto a game. <br><br>Modern games have more accurate client side prediction and better timing mechanisms built into them so that latency isnt a factor anymore.]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><b>cosmofairly</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  munky99999 <A HREF="/useremail/u/987136"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>wow you guys whine alot... <br><br>Oh noes I have internet speed is so fast that I also need a low ping.<br><br> </div>Hey, who's whining?  :p<br><br>Really, though, fast connection speed is quite often moot, at least to me, because most places where you want to have a high download speed are capped (like rapidshare, unless you subscribe) or throttled (torrent).  <br><br>For me and a lot of others, the latency is important because of gaming.  Since getting switched to fast path my ping is now 15 - 20 ms faster compared to my interleaved profile, and it has made a significant difference in my gaming.<br><br>Also for the record, ]]></description>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : I had a 7296/1088 profile for over two months.. there's Screenshots of it posted here in the Sympatico Forum.<br>I don't know why it's so hard for Bell to set a profile properly. I did have to call and swear a lot though, that may be why they got it right..]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 05:39:21 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><b>snickersee</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  rated <A HREF="/useremail/u/1573567"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>there is no need to flood the directforum with something as trivial as changing your profile to fastpath...you can simply talk to someone on bell chat and they will have your profile changed to fastpath within hours...this is what i did<br> </div>I would disagree.  no offense but the chat is worthless.  I wanted to upgrade my account to 10 meg and had a confirmation number and all and nothing ever came of it.<br><br>the folks in the direct forum seem to be able to get things done quicker.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 03:45:45 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/987136"><b>munky99999</b></A> : wow you guys whine alot... <br><br>Oh noes I have internet speed is so fast that I also need a low ping.<br><br>Or there's these other people who are still 1mbit interleaved... perhaps we can leave these people with awesome connections alone for a few years and upgrade the crap connections?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:00:34 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635466"><b>Glen1</b></A> : Based on this change...fastpath on ADSL2+, I have upgraded my service to the 10 Meg Max with 100 Gig download limit from unlimited. I have checked my download usage for the past few months and this amount is definitely plenty for my needs. The latency issue was the thing that kept me away.<br><small>--<br>My Canada includes Quebec.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 15:30:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1573567"><b>rated</b></A> : there is no need to flood the directforum with something as trivial as changing your profile to fastpath...you can simply talk to someone on bell chat and they will have your profile changed to fastpath within hours...this is what i did]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:33:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : I have been made aware that at least upstream SNR levels are not absolute when under ADSL2+.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:16:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1042136"><b>andrewsfm</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  snickersee <A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>Protocol:&#9;G.DMT2+ Annex A<br>Downstream Rate:&#9;7294 kbps<br>Upstream Rate:&#9;1020 kbps<br>Channel:&#9;Fast<br>Current Noise Margin:&#9;24.3 dB (Downstream), 7.2 dB (Upstream)<br> </div>Another ADSL2+ profile that's not configured to the actual profile bitrate, and just squeezing by on the upstream noise margin.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:13:31 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/807621"><b>EcHoMaN</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  cosmofairly <A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>So does this mean we should all flood the direct support thread for fast path requests?  :)<br> </div>Jyup.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:13:14 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1064363"><b>CigaR</b></A> : Any reason as to why ADSL2+ profiles were initially on interleave ?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:41:41 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1122991"><b>XDSLTECH1</b></A> : All new 7m connections are default Fast Path. <br>I don't think the old 7m Interleaved will be changed to 7m fast without a specific request from the customer.<br><br>10,12,16 are still defaulted to Interleaved. <br>You will need to call in and request Fast to get it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:40:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><b>cosmofairly</b></A> : So does this mean we should all flood the direct support thread for fast path requests?  :)]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:31:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : :)<br> I may not work for bell, but I do like to help folks out when I can.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:30:03 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><b>snickersee</b></A> : nice!!! thanks for the tip.<br><br>DSL Line (Wire Pair):&#9;Line 1 (inner pair)<br>Protocol:&#9;G.DMT2+ Annex A<br>Downstream Rate:&#9;7294 kbps<br>Upstream Rate:&#9;1020 kbps<br>Channel:&#9;Fast<br>Current Noise Margin:&#9;24.3 dB (Downstream), 7.2 dB (Upstream)<br>Current Attenuation:&#9;14.4 dB (Downstream), 2.1 dB (Upstream)<br>Current Output Power:&#9;8.8 dBm (Downstream), 11.3 dBm (Upstream)<br>DSLAM Vendor Information:&#9;Country: {0xFF} Vendor: {GSPN} Specific: {0x1000}<br>PVC Info:&#9;0/35]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 01:13:07 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1354191"><b>Mont</b></A> : Can someone check and tell me on what profile im on ?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 00:19:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/356677"><b>Deadpool</b></A> : I can confirm that this thread is true.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:06:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><b>snickersee</b></A> : <div class="bquote"><small>said by  Mont <A HREF="/useremail/u/1354191"><IMG SRC="http://i.dslr.net/bb/profile.gif" ALT="See Profile" BORDER=0 WIDTH=16 HEIGHT=11></A> :</small><br><br>So if i have a 2wire i can't check ?<br> </div>yeah if it is the locked version given by Bell, yes.  My modem is in my drawer collecting dust after I found out how crippled the modem is in terms of getting line stats, etc.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 19:26:27 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1354191"><b>Mont</b></A> : So if i have a 2wire i can't check ?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 00:24:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><b>snickersee</b></A> : It's about 8-10 ms difference to the first hop, but here it is.<br><br> 1  home (192.168.1.1)  1.669 ms  0.910 ms  1.732 ms<br> 2  bas2-toronto21_lo0_SYMP.net.bell.ca (64.230.197.191)  16.049 ms  17.566 ms  17.737 ms<br> 3  core2-toronto63_13-0-9_147.net.bell.ca (64.230.139.129)  15.756 ms  15.859 ms  15.701 ms<br> 4  core4-toronto21_POS0-4-1-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.158.237)  15.466 ms  15.825 ms  15.694 ms<br> 5  core2-chicago23_POS12-0-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.138.94)  25.487 ms  25.607 ms  25.929 ms<br> 6  bx6-chicago23_POS0-3-0-0.net.bell.ca (64.230.186.202)  33.224 ms  31.276 ms  29.732 ms<br> 7  te1-1.ccr02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.29)  27.414 ms  27.454 ms  27.824 ms<br> 8  te1-3.mpd01.yyz02.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.7.17)  41.187 ms  41.717 ms  41.099 ms<br><br>DSL Line (Wire Pair):&#9;Line 1 (inner pair)<br>Protocol:&#9;G.DMT2+ Annex A<br>Downstream Rate:&#9;7292 kbps<br>Upstream Rate:&#9;1032 kbps<br>Channel:&#9;Interleaved<br>Current Noise Margin:&#9;25.2 dB (Downstream), 7.1 dB (Upstream)<br>Current Attenuation:&#9;14.4 dB (Downstream), 2.0 dB (Upstream)<br>Current Output Power:&#9;8.8 dBm (Downstream), 11.4 dBm (Upstream)<br>DSLAM Vendor Information:&#9;Country: {0xFF} Vendor: {GSPN} Specific: {0x1000}<br>PVC Info:&#9;0/35]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:58:47 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1331622"><b>TSI Martin</b></A> : any (new) line cards installed nowadays are VDSL.  But with how bell is turning the dsl service into a dial up service... will that actually be necessary.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:15:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/646748"><b>Angelo_</b></A> : i'd love to see a tracert, also do you know what line card you are connected to?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:10:12 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1331622"><b>TSI Martin</b></A> : From my time working there & changing profiles.... I've never seen a properly working adsl2 profile.<br><br>Best I've seen was 7296/9**<br><br>What I'd like to see is like Glen said... a Interleave profile Trace & a Fastpath Trace.  Until then I think we won't really be able to compare.<br><small>--<br>Regards,<br>Martin<br>---<br>TSI Martin - Teksavvy Solutions Inc.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:45:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : True, that is because it's an unlocked modem.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:33:52 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1543771"><b>donkies</b></A> : at least on a 2700HG-B Gateway, it clearly shows interleaved on:<br><br>&raquo;<A HREF="http://home/xslt?PAGE=J02&THISPAGE=A02_POST&NEXTPAGE=J02" >home/xslt?PAGE=J02&THISPAGE=A02_&middot;&middot;&middot;PAGE=J02</A>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:30:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1042136"><b>andrewsfm</b></A> : Shouldn't a properly configured ADSL2+ profile be 7040/1088?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:13:01 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/635466"><b>Glen1</b></A> : I would like to see some tracert comparisons between a fastpath profile and an interleave profile for latency.<br><small>--<br>My Canada includes Quebec.</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:21:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : hmmm J03?<br><br>I think that maybe interleave and fast path maaaaay be reported as a value instead of the words :/]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:20:39 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : no go]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:11:53 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : might be on J=2 or J=3]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:57:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : Don't think you can for the Bell 2Wire, I have checked the hidden stats page tenfold and I can't find anything that may help.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:51:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1354191"><b>Mont</b></A> : How do i check the profile on a 2wire.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:45:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><b>snickersee</b></A> : just created a thread in the direct forum to get that done.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:34:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/682073"><b>dark man x</b></A> : mine was automatic, when i first go 7meg like 3 months ago i was on interleaved but its been changed to fastpath]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:01:35 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : You have to request it, I am on ADSL2+ fastpath and it is working allot better.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:59:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1471343"><b>snickersee</b></A> : Do we have to request this or is it done automatically?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:57:09 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/682073"><b>dark man x</b></A> : i am on adsl2+ fastpath<div class="borderless"><TABLE WIDTH=95% align=center border=0 CELLPADDING=4"><TR><TD ALIGN=CENTER VALIGN=CENTER BGCOLOR=#000000 nwrap COLSPAN=3 WIDTH=100%><A HREF="/speak/slideshow/21083857?c=1348119&ret=L2ZvcnVtL3IyMTA4Mjc3NS54bWw%3D"><IMG class="apic" BORDER=0 TITLE="238941 bytes" WIDTH=600 HEIGHT=450 SRC="/r0/download/1348119.thumb600~78e2ef48a12a91a406d42b510a75b17a/fastpath.JPG/thumb.jpg" ALT="Click for full size"></A></TD></TABLE></div>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:46:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1543771"><b>donkies</b></A> : what about us suckers on adsl2+ that are only on the 5/.8 profile?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 17:19:02 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1573212"><b>cosmofairly</b></A> : Yeah, that would be good news since I just got on ADSL2+ and I hate seeing "interleaved" on my line stats...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:51:16 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/0"><b>anon</b></A> : so this is just a rumour right? has anyone actually placed on ADSL2+ fastpath? can anyone confirm this?]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:07:06 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1169764"><b>jessegr</b></A> : they might save themselves.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:08:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : Inside source; as before there was just interleave profiles for ADSL2+, now there are FastPath profiles for every ADSL2+ profile from 7Meg up-to 16Meg.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:45:24 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1490099"><b>theninjasqua</b></A> : Where is this news coming from?<br><small>--<br><br>-theninjasquad</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:44:00 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[<A HREF="/useremail/u/1432156"><b>DS</b></A> : ....RUMOUR HAS IT.... <br>....NEW FASTPATH ON ADSL2+ PROFILES....<br>....NO MORE FORCED INTERLEAVE....<br><br>This is very important to gamers, as it means lower latency then the standard profiles for 7Meg and upwards.<br><br><small>--<br>Bell Sympatico - Total Internet Max - 16 Mbit Connection<br>Download Speed: 13903 kbps (1737.9 KB/sec transfer rate)<br>Upload Speed: 883 kbps (110.4 KB/sec transfer rate)</small>]]></description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:40:14 EDT</pubDate>
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