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dvd536
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Re: Monster HDMI cables worth it?

said by mab631 See Profile :

ok this is all great info and im going to buy the cable from monoprice in fact going to get the one asjamias posted but not in yellow lol. Anyway the guy also wanted to sell me a Monster Power - Home Theater PowerCenter Surge Protector »www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···06198854 for $229.99 saying it will clean the line and make the picture look better. BS or not from the bestbuy guy?
ROFL! picture isn't going to be any better than it will be on a $30 strip.
monster * = overpriced.
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Agreed on the others here. Monster anything is HORRENDOUSLY overpriced and worthless. They really should be outlawed completely. Like Wild West style outlawed. Same ting with 'Geek Squad' brand cables. *ugh*


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said by mab631 See Profile :

Anyway the guy also wanted to sell me a Monster Power - Home Theater PowerCenter Surge Protector »www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···06198854 for $229.99 saying it will clean the line and make the picture look better.
It will make your picture better - but only if you really want to believe it
Most devices use switching power supplies these days, so you filter the supply current but then you CHOP IT...
What you could get is a regular UPS, that protects your equipment by preventing overvoltages and brownouts.


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said by cowboyro See Profile :

said by mab631 See Profile :

Anyway the guy also wanted to sell me a Monster Power - Home Theater PowerCenter Surge Protector »www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp···06198854 for $229.99 saying it will clean the line and make the picture look better.
It will make your picture better - but only if you really want to believe it
Most devices use switching power supplies these days, so you filter the supply current but then you CHOP IT...
What you could get is a regular UPS, that protects your equipment by preventing overvoltages and brownouts.
I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE!!!!!


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In case you haven't already ordered, there's a local (to me) company called bluejeanscables.com that is also great. I've hooked one up to a Pioneer Elite VSX-94TXH and Panasonic Viera (and to all components) with great results. Though we went with a thick gauge and they're a little difficult to use because they don't want to bend, but that could be solved by going with a thinner gauge. Either way, you save a lot of money and get a great product!
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IllIlIlllIll
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said by mab631 See Profile :

... Are the $100 monster cables worth it ?
No


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I would just like to add to this thread.

While it is an obvious fact that the Monster brand cables that are for digital applications will not produce better picture quality - The DC voltage will travel a longer distance on higher quality cables. So while shorter monster cables are definatly not worth it - If monster does sell longer length HDMI cables, they may in fact be worth it. (As cheaper cables of that length may not deliver the desired bandwidth, or work at all)

For most people though, if it's to be used in digital applications - Buy the cheapest thing you can get.
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I got the $1.06 Hdmi cable off amazon with $3.99 shipping and that wire is the same as the $49.99 one I got at circuit city.


Warzau
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Okay the only time I buy monster cables is when they are on closeout and are for 3 dollars or so. Or on par with other no name brands.


dvd536
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said by Warzau See Profile :

Okay the only time I buy monster cables is when they are on closeout and are for 3 dollars or so. Or on par with other no name brands.
in other words you don't buy them
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said by Mchart See Profile :

If monster does sell longer length HDMI cables, they may in fact be worth it. (As cheaper cables of that length may not deliver the desired bandwidth, or work at all)

For most people though, if it's to be used in digital applications - Buy the cheapest thing you can get.
can you explain these? HDMI cables are all the same whether short or long...so how does Monster 15 ft. cable differ with a Monoprice 15 ft. long cable also? Considering both are 1.3 certified to standards...


tigrzeye
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Difference is .. Monster cables cost more.

There are however differences when you get to longer run cables as compared to short length cables. Not necessarily related to the brand name.

I.E. I have a 35' HDMI cable going to one of my TV's. The gauge of the wire used is heavier, to help prevent signal loss over long runs, than in shorter 6' and 10' HDMI cables. And if you are planning to run the cables through the wall you should use a cable with an in wall rating.


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said by asjamias See Profile :

said by Mchart See Profile :

If monster does sell longer length HDMI cables, they may in fact be worth it. (As cheaper cables of that length may not deliver the desired bandwidth, or work at all)

For most people though, if it's to be used in digital applications - Buy the cheapest thing you can get.
can you explain these? HDMI cables are all the same whether short or long...so how does Monster 15 ft. cable differ with a Monoprice 15 ft. long cable also? Considering both are 1.3 certified to standards...
Because the more distance, and crappier quality wiring means the more of a chance the receiving device will be unable to remain on clock. Obviously, if the wire is made out of higher quality metals, has higher quality shielding, and lower resistance connectors - The farther the signalling will travel over the wire.

This is of course why I said that short monster cables have no benefit, but why ultra-long monster cables may indeed -work- when compared to equivelant length crap cables.

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whether monoprice or monster, at long cable runs, both may or may not need a repeater of some sort even when both comply to the current 1.3 standards...they are the same cable...

And simply because I have tried a 15' Monster cable and a 15' Monoprice cable both certified to 1.3 and both doesn't have a difference in quality. The only thing different from them is the price. I purchased all my 15' run HDMI, Component and S-video Cables from monoprice and they work fine for a fraction of the cost.


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I had best buy geek squad come to my house for a consultation as i'm getting my tv mounted on the fireplace. They convinced me to buy the expensive monster HDMI cables but after reading this thread i'll be going to return them today.

That sounds an awful lot like upselling to me. Push the more expensive audio/video cables just to earn a higher commission.
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See:

»gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-b···8788.php


bassjunky

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LOL, Those reviews for the Denon link cable are great. What is that, just a regular cat5 or cat6 cable?


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I own RCA, ge ultra (target) monster, Philips (wal-mart), some radio shack knock off. Then you can buy monster at any Odd-Lot Stores now in the discounted electronic section dirt cheap. There are some brands that seems to work as most. Amazon has some really check HDMI going on, still I never had problems with the Philips 24K Gold Plated ones sold at Wal-Mart.

Phillips HDMI


# 24k gold-plated corrosion resistant connectors
# Conductor Copper
# Insulation Aluminum braided shielding

Cost $18, some store have it double in price, shame on Wal-mart to let that go on..

Higher End Philips HDMI


* Copper reinforced aluminum braided shielding
* 24k gold-plated corrosion resistant connectors for optimum performance

Find this on Amazon for $27 with free shipping but still is it worth the extra $10 for it? Does the basic one for $18 will it be enough. I say yeah! I use that since 2006 no problems!

Heck even Staples, Office Depot and Office Max carries HDTV and sells the cheap HDMI for them too.

They all have 24K gold plated, EMI/EMF/PVC jacket cover to protect the wires, bla, bla, bla.

Monster cost more as they're marketed as high end cables, and should you spend $80 on HDMI 6" 2m. I say that's crazy!


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I got the same one,three actually for under $15 . I returned the 2 from walmart and the one to target and save like 75 bucks turns out I only really needed 1 because when I got my HD box from charter they gave me one with it.
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tipstir

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reply to mab631
I had ordered 3 HDMI that are HDCP, 1.3 compliant off Amazon dirt cheap I'll see how they go. I really don't want to spend so much on HDMI. I also order DVI-to-DVI for PC video to PC Monitor. Again dirt cheap. Some good deals online. There is another Philips one top of the line looks like this..

Philips PXT series (meaning Pro series) $25 bucks


# 24 carot gold-plated connector
# Oxygen-free copper conductor
# Shielding made with 100% aluminum and copper braiding
# HDCP compliant
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