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Re: Time to regulate junk and scrap yards. But right now scrap metal yards should not accept bulk catalytic converters. Things they know are stolen. But they do. And if they voluntarily are not keeping records that could be used to track down a thief they are accomplices who embezzle the metal. The fact is, the current system lets a scrapper accept anything with no accountability. They do it because they can underpay the thief and turn around and make a lot of money on the metal. Yes, the people that support theft, if not promote it, should definitely pay 30 bucks a month to gain access to system to track abuse. Tons of small businesses pay worse for a credit card machine. So costs would definitely not be unfair. In the end, the biggest loss of profit will be the lack of criminals turning in scrap metal. Which is something no one has a right to argue over. | |  rec9140Provoice just DO it join:2003-07-29 Mulberry, FL | said by insomniac84: Which is something no one has a right to argue over.
Well, then you will need to let every user of Ebay know they need to get a license to sell on Ebay, register with the FBI, CIA, DEA, ATF, EPS, etc...
Ebay can and is used for similar things.
Oh, better apply that registry to every yard sale as well. They are good for at least one stolen property recovery call a weekend if not more. At the height of the yard sale season its probably 3-4 on average a weekend.
I don't see your way.... Your not going to solve the issue with this database. Just as there are pawn shops or others who deal with stolen property you just move it around. Those who are not going to follow the laws to begin with are not going to follow this either. Who is going to polic this? Local police? State? Federal? The feds have way more important things at the top of their list. Hint it starts with the letter T. State. Same thing. Local? Outside major cities, most areas do not have pawn shop units. Your area may different. There is a COST for this enforcement and some one is going to pay and its not just going to be the scrap metal collectors and sellers. YOU, Joe and Jane Taxpayer..... NO Thanks.
Less is more.
There are existing laws and practices to deal with theft.
If you have property that needs to be protected then Y O U as the owner need to protect it.
Just as an example.... The towers I am in direct control of are checked on 3 TIMES per day. Once per shift. If I want to get nasty I can do a little SQL query to the DB and find every record of a tower check. Fail to perform the check in your zone, that is grounds for termination ON THE SPOT! Thats in addition to alarm systems, cameras, and ground sensors. So breath too hard close to my tower(s) be prepared to meet some of my friends and their "little friends."
The tower in question I am familar with and was not in use at the time. Those involved obviously had planned this out very well to get this item down and off the location. Especially due to the remoteness of the location.
The words:
1984
George Orwell
Big Brother
All come to mind in your proposal, and thanks but NO THANKS! -- Ban all copyright, trademarks, and IP laws!//Lorem ipsum ei pro stet equidem labores, at enim animal expetenda nec. Ea vix argumentum dissentiunt, usu esse ridens ex. | |  | I think you are going way to far in your assessment. I've never heard of a company ruined because of a garage sale. Or a real estate deal fall apart because of a pawn shop. Scrap metal yards encourage theft and cause a lot of damage to people. And a pawn shop or a garage sale doesn't destroy the items, which means stolen items at those places are recoverable. You have crack heads stealing whole towers, catalytic converters from cars, wiring from buildings, pipes from buildings, power lines, etc. And the scrap yards even know these items are stolen, they just ignore the issue because they know they will never get in trouble for it and they can underpay the thief. It's an industry that has failed miserably at self policing and therefore the states need to step in and force something on them. | |  d50man join:2002-08-27 Hickory, NC | reply to rec9140 rec9140 Your stuff can still get pulled quick. F350 thru the fence then hookup to the pedestal and pull. If they want it they'll take it depends on motivation | |  rec9140Provoice just DO it join:2003-07-29 Mulberry, FL | said by d50man: rec9140 Your stuff can still get pulled quick. F350 thru the fence then hookup to the pedestal and pull. If they want it they'll take it depends on motivation
I would agree, and at the average tower site that might work. Some sites are a little more protected than a chain link fence.  -- Ban all copyright, trademarks, and IP laws!//Lorem ipsum ei pro stet equidem labores, at enim animal expetenda nec. Ea vix argumentum dissentiunt, usu esse ridens ex. | |
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