Re: Why is this impressive? in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21093436 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:07:04 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 13:07:04 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094062 expert007 : Lets not confuse people with the facts now. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21094062 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 13:34:31 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093768 Matt :
said by id_deleted See Profile :

Well exactly what speed do you consider "mobile" then, is 79 mph not quite up to your expectations? The same system is used by the UTA bus fleet. If I had the same equipment in my car I would be good to go, what is so hard to understand there?
No, they are using fixed WiMax to get the signal to standard WiFi access points. Mobile WiMax doesn't require an intermediate WiFi access point. It's straight WiMax to the laptop, cell phone, whatever, at the speeds listed.
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Linux Haters Unite!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093768 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:45:32 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093600 id_deleted : Well exactly what speed do you consider "mobile" then, is 79 mph not quite up to your expectations? The same system is used by the UTA bus fleet. If I had the same equipment in my car I would be good to go, what is so hard to understand there? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093600 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:10:56 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093581 Matt :
said by id_deleted See Profile :

Exactly why would it be called a "WiMax Tower" if it did not use WiMax technology?
This article is about MOBILE WiMax, not fixed WiMax. Clearwire has offered fixed WiMax here for 3+ years now. There is a big difference in the two technologies.
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Linux Haters Unite!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093581 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:06:19 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093580 Seaboogers :
said by id_deleted See Profile :

Exactly why would it be called a "WiMax Tower" if it did not use WiMax technology?
Please re-read what was posted.

He said the "BackHaul" portion was NOT WiMax...he never said anything about the towers that feed the trains.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093580 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:06:16 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093572 id_deleted : Exactly why would it be called a "WiMax Tower" if it did not use WiMax technology? The fact that the passengers are using WiFi to connect to a WiMax router makes very little difference, theres just not a whole lot of WiMax PC adapters available yet, ya know.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093572 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:04:17 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093509 Seaboogers :
said by id_deleted See Profile :

Its still considered WiMax so what does the equipment have to do with it? Are you saying that Utah lies when it states that its system is WiMax? ROTFLMAO
I believe you've misunderstood what he said.

They are not using "WiMax" for "Backhaul"....from what I see in that "press" release...they are using fiber to feed "WiMax" towers along the track, which in turn feed the wireless signal into the passing trains.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093509 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:50:36 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093454 id_deleted : The Redline AN80 is just an ethernet bridge. Are you saying that Utah lies when it states that its system is WiMax? ROTFLMAO

»www.utabus.com/mediaRoom/pressRe···seID=834]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093454 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:41:50 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093436 aeronet : AFAOK the Utah system uses Redline AN80 Backhaul units, they are not Wimax. They are fixed wireless with a propietary protocol]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093436 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:40:00 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093419 Matt :
said by id_deleted See Profile :

Because a functional citywide WiMax network is not yet a reality for most of us. All we really need to do is add some more towers here and it would make this hyped SF system look like the nonsense that it is.
Oh, did I mention that the TRAXX WiFi network is FREE to use by any passenger? I hope you all enjoy making Clearwire investors rich, and while you all waste your money on slow ISP's, we will continue to enjoy our 50 Mbps Utopia connections.
:uhh:
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Linux Haters Unite!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093419 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:38:00 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093206 id_deleted : Because a functional citywide WiMax network is not yet a reality for most of us. All we really need to do is add some more towers here and it would make this hyped SF system look like the nonsense that it is.
Oh, did I mention that the TRAXX WiFi network is FREE to use by any passenger? I hope you all enjoy making Clearwire investors rich, and while you all waste your money on slow ISP's, we will continue to enjoy our 50 Mbps Utopia connections.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093206 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:04:30 EDT Re: Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093196 Matt : I'd pose the same question to you. What is so much more impressive about the system you have described as opposed to a citywide mobile WiMAX network?
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Linux Haters Unite!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093196 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:02:06 EDT Why is this impressive? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093151 id_deleted : They are currently using 5 Mbps WiMax here in Utah for the UTA TRAXX light rail system:

Conduit and fiber optic cables installed under the tracks allowed UTA to build a very robust WiMax backhaul system.
Fiber backhaul system connects to a dedicated 20 megabits per second ISP.
The rail corridor features 28 WiMax towers that connect the fiber backhaul system to the trains by broadcasting a 5 megabit WiMax connection to access points on board each car.
The access points then broadcast the WiFi to users seated anywhere on the train.
Train cars also feature an ATT 3G data backup network that maintains a continuous connection with WiFi users to prevent any loss of signal in the event of a drop from the WiMax system.

They already have an average of 1000 people per day that use this system. We take mobile broadband internet connectivity very seriously here in Utah. I have a carpc with a 3G EV-DO connection, just waiting for the day I can switch over to WiMax. :p]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21093151 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:52:08 EDT