memyselfI
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Re: Sad
You Sir are dead wrong. Or better yet I have a 14.4 modem for you enjoy. |
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nottruefiber
@verizon.net | reply to maartena
not true
Not true Verizon ran a fiberoptic cable from texas to Baltimore,MD using the Railroads. I no because my company gutted the building where the fiber was headed. |
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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Re: Sad
said by dadkins  :Santa Clara, CA. Google Paxio for information. Sounds good[if you happen to live in the tiny pocket they serve]
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Warez_Zealot
Rural land of the rising sun
join:2006-04-19
japan
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said by Morac :said by wifi4milez :Thats not a true statement. Just because you have a GigE connection doesnt mean anything when it comes to using the internet. Content on the 'net is two way, meaning that your computer sends out a request and then the remote server sends it to you. Unless the site you are connecting to also has a GigE upload, you arent going to get your content any faster. For instance, most websites are served via T1's. This means you will not be able to download content from them any faster than 1.54Mbps, regardless of if you have a 2Mbps connection or a 10Gbps uber pipe. True you aren't likely to get 1 Gbps from a single source, but from multiple sources (example: BitTorrent) it's possible. Yes you're right. With BT or a download accelerator you could get the full 1Gb/s.
My brother has a 100Mb/s connection in his apartment, and he gets ridiculously high off other peers and many file hosting servers all the time.
I think his record was something like 10,000kB/s or 10MB/s or 80Mb/s. If he had 1Gbit/s I'm sure he would get the same.
I think he had two other jpn seeds, and he got almost 2.2MB/s off one guy.
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NetAdmin
CCNA
join:2008-05-22
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said by wifi4milez :For instance, most websites are served via T1's. This means you will not be able to download content from them any faster than 1.54Mbps, regardless of if you have a 2Mbps connection or a 10Gbps uber pipe. That may have been true five or ten years ago, but that is no longer the case. Most are now connected at speeds of 10Mbps or higher.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
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 ·BroadVoice
| reply to Morac
said by Morac :said by wifi4milez :Thats not a true statement. Just because you have a GigE connection doesnt mean anything when it comes to using the internet. Content on the 'net is two way, meaning that your computer sends out a request and then the remote server sends it to you. Unless the site you are connecting to also has a GigE upload, you arent going to get your content any faster. For instance, most websites are served via T1's. This means you will not be able to download content from them any faster than 1.54Mbps, regardless of if you have a 2Mbps connection or a 10Gbps uber pipe. True you aren't likely to get 1 Gbps from a single source, but from multiple sources (example: BitTorrent) it's possible. Correct, bit torrent and the like are the exception. Even then I think you would have a problem funneling 1 gig per second to a single destination (ie. your computer), however I dont know if anyone has tried!
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
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said by wifi4milez :Thats not a true statement. Just because you have a GigE connection doesnt mean anything when it comes to using the internet. Content on the 'net is two way, meaning that your computer sends out a request and then the remote server sends it to you. Unless the site you are connecting to also has a GigE upload, you arent going to get your content any faster. For instance, most websites are served via T1's. This means you will not be able to download content from them any faster than 1.54Mbps, regardless of if you have a 2Mbps connection or a 10Gbps uber pipe. True you aren't likely to get 1 Gbps from a single source, but from multiple sources (example: BitTorrent) it's possible.
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
join:2004-08-07
New York, NY
·Verizon FIOS
·Sprint Mobile Broa..
·RoadRunner Cable
·BroadVoice
| reply to Morac
said by Morac :It would be nice to be able to download an entire HD movie in under a minute. 1 Gbps is unreal. With those speeds you could hit Comcast's 250 GB cap in a approximately 33 minutes.  Thats not a true statement. Just because you have a GigE connection doesnt mean anything when it comes to using the internet. Content on the 'net is two way, meaning that your computer sends out a request and then the remote server sends it to you. Unless the site you are connecting to also has a GigE upload, you arent going to get your content any faster. For instance, most websites are served via T1's. This means you will not be able to download content from them any faster than 1.54Mbps, regardless of if you have a 2Mbps connection or a 10Gbps uber pipe.
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maartena
Stacked.
Premium
join:2002-05-10
Orange, CA
·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to S_engineer
said by S_engineer :Where's ours?????????????????????????  I am originally from the Netherlands, now living in California. The Dutch telecom operators have - in the past, not anymore - gotten big government subsidies to implement data networks and cable TV.
The Netherlands is roughly half the size of Maine, or twice the size of New Hampshire, to give you an idea of size, and currently 98% of the country can get DSL and CableTV, and as much as 5% can get municipal fiber or commercial fiber.
It is a dense market, as there are 16 million people living there, and connectivity between cities is a lot easier to manage. For instance, the Dutch railway system connects pretty much every city that has more then 50.000 people, and many cities smaller then that, and telecom companies are allowed to use the state-owned rail property to connect cities to fiber networks. Along the railways, you will often find a concrete "canal" (compare it sorta to square sewerpipes that are a foot in diameter) with concrete covers every few kilometers or so which makes it very easy to add fiber lines between cities.
Many major telecom companies have datacenters not far from a railway line to tap into the big fiber rings going through the "randstad" area in western Holland.
Basically, due to existing infrastructure such as railways, government subsidies in the past, government allowing telcos to use the railway data-canals to cheaply add huge amounts of bandwidth to innner-city and inter-city networks, has made it a lot more affordable to connect big fat pipes to the common man.
The AMS-IX (Amsterdam Internet Exchange) is the largest internet hub of the world:
From wikipedia:
"As of September 11, 2008 AMS-IX connected 301 members on 562 ports[5] and the all time peak of incoming traffic was 444.725 Gbit/s and of outgoing traffic 442.073 Gbit/s.[6] This makes the Amsterdam Internet Exchange the largest internet exchange in the world, when measured by number of connected members and by internet traffic, before the Deutscher Commercial Internet Exchange[7] and the London Internet Exchange.[8]"
Here in the United States, telco companies have to pay for everything. They don't get government subsidies, they don't get to use the countries Amtrak infrastructure to deploy city-to-city fiber, and another big issue is the distance between cities here in the US. It is significantly more expensive to bring a big fat pipe to a city, and thus more expensive to bring it to homes. |
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to Morac
No, you would not hit that cap in 33 minutes. The far end isn't going to feed you that HD movie at 1Gbps. Even on our internal network it still takes a few minutes to push 10Gb files from one machine to the other. |
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swhitney2003
I can't drive 55.
Premium
join:2003-06-13
NH
clubs:  | reply to SilverSurfer
I think he was being sarcastic |
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SilverSurfer
join:2007-08-19
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said by sousademiami :We're lucky enough here to have real competition, so our internet connections are far superior to this so-called "fiber." Here in the US we have REAL fiber. The type that ends far before your front door to provide the best possible service to you and your family! Edit: Also note that your US internet connection is capable of sending 500,000 emails PER MONTH!!!!!! I know that's a little overwhelming. Take a minute to absorb it. "Real" competition? Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're living in a fantasyland if you believe that "competition" consists of exactly 1 DSL and exactly 1 cable co. provider for BB service in any given market. And that's only IF you reside in a metro area. BB in rural areas of the country is by & large non-existent. |
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Morac
join:2001-08-30
Riverside, NJ
·Comcast
| reply to battleop
It would be nice to be able to download an entire HD movie in under a minute.
1 Gbps is unreal. With those speeds you could hit Comcast's 250 GB cap in a approximately 33 minutes.
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sousademiami
join:2003-02-04
Hialeah, FL
·Comcast
 ·AT&T Southeast
1 edit | reply to S_engineer
said by S_engineer :Where's ours????????????????????????? We're lucky enough here to have real competition, so our internet connections are far superior to this so-called "fiber." Here in the US we have REAL fiber. The type that ends far before your front door to provide the best possible service to you and your family!
Edit: Also note that your US internet connection is capable of sending 500,000 emails PER MONTH!!!!!! I know that's a little overwhelming. Take a minute to absorb it.
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battleop
join:2005-09-28
00000 | reply to nasadude
It will be several years at a minimum before you would NEED anything close to 1Gbps. This would be as useful as having a 108Mbps wireless router connected to a 6Mb DSL circuit. |
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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
·Comcast
| reply to S_engineer
said by S_engineer :Where's ours????????????????????????? I figure in 10 or 15 years we MIGHT have these kinds of speeds, if we're lucky.
that would be awesome, though - we could hit our comcast cap in about 5 minutes! |
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dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA | reply to S_engineer
Santa Clara, CA.
Google Paxio for information. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | Where's ours????????????????????????? |
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