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Re: It's called fascism
Ummmmm....wasn't Mussolini a fascist? |
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TamaraB
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| said by N10Cities  :Ummmmm....wasn't Mussolini a fascist? Duuuhhhhh..... That's the entire point! Fascism is the merging of corporate and government power. It's when the government and the corporate world are one and the same. Like what we have here today.
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Matt
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| said by TamaraB :said by N10Cities :Ummmmm....wasn't Mussolini a fascist? Duuuhhhhh..... That's the entire point! Fascism is the merging of corporate and government power. It's when the government and the corporate world are one and the same. Like what we have here today. Bob Not quite. If you remember your World Civ II class, when the major economies switched from Mercantilism (closer to what you described) to Capitalism, the objectives were to allow private entities to trade freely. The government's role was to protect the ability of that free trade and while I don't agree this is a worthwhile use of that protection by the RIAA/MPAA, it is by classic definition their right to ask.
The fact that you take a quote from Mussolini which he used to try and JUSTIFY fascism, and then state that is how our country is currently operating, is despicable.
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1 edit | and then state that is how our country is currently operating, is despicable.
No Despicable is any elected politician accepting any thing money, goods, services from any business that wasn't paid for by the politician from their personal earnings.
And any elected politician that says they are not influenced by the freebies is a blatant liar! |
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said by Matt : ... that is how our country is currently operating, is despicable. What is despicable is the fact that corporate lobbyists bribe congress into passing bills which protect corporate profits. That government bails out failing corporations, while leaving citizens to not only fend for themselves, but to pay for corporate failings. Help for Fannie mae, but none for those facing foreclosures, tax breaks for big oil, but none for the middle class. And now, wanting to protect MPAA/RIAA in civil actions. It IS how we operate.
When a government is both run by and run for corporate welfare, it is by definition a fascist government. That's what's despicable, and is what is happening right now.
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| Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was made by the government so low income households could get houses from a soaring housing market.
And when you have a privatized capitalist system the government likes to put laws on them so that the government doesn't become second to corporations. But, we have allowed our corporations to get big, and our government is taking a backseat because of it. |
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| This is not fascism
Your using the same argument against the RIAA & MpAA as you could use against Apple, Google, or Intel. These are quite simply monopolistic corporations trying to protect their product. While their tactics are deplorable, they are entitled to do so.I keep hearing the anti-corporation crowd bark how bad these companies are. Like the above post " we have allowed our corporations to get big, and our government is taking a backseat because of it."
THIS IS WHAT BUSINESS DOES...IT GROWS!
These corps also EMPLOY, and INSURE millions of people.
As far as Mussolini goes, he wasn't a true fascist. he blended elements of fascism with elements of traditionalism for his Italian utopia~!
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Re: It's called fascism
said by Matt :The fact that you take a quote from Mussolini which he used to try and JUSTIFY fascism, and then state that is how our country is currently operating, is despicable. At least he did not quote Hitler. That usually signifies the end of a thread. |
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james
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Re: This is not fascism
said by S_engineer :THIS IS WHAT BUSINESS DOES...IT GROWS! Perhaps that is the problem. WHY should a company keep growing and growing? Is this sustainable? Is it good for the company in the long term?
CEOs and share-holders these days dont care about the long term health of the company they run, they just want to make the company appear to make money for 3-4 years so they can get out with a huge retirement package. |
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Re: It's called fascism
said by n2jtx :At least he did not quote Hitler. That usually signifies the end of a thread. Simply bringing him up is enough to end a thread, quoting him has nothing to do with it. Thanks for ruining the thread! You...you...GOODWIN'S LAW NAZI! |
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Re: This is not fascism
said by S_engineer :THIS IS WHAT BUSINESS DOES...IT GROWS! Uncontrolled growth is a definition of a malignant tumor. |
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said by S_engineer :... THIS IS WHAT BUSINESS DOES...IT GROWS! Cancer grows, too.
So does grass.
My puppy, too.
The nature of a thing to grow does not mean it automatically has a right to grow unchecked. We excise cancer, we trim grass, we feed our puppies more!
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Re: It's called fascism
said by N10Cities :Ummmmm....wasn't Mussolini a fascist? Yes. Therefore, he should know.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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