Topic 'Re: I can understand this one...' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21098766 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:48 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:09:48 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21153184
i understand he wouldn't actually be rubbing one out, but he's certainly turned on by the content and i really don't want to be part of that.. that's just f*ckin gross. there are lots of men that are simply turned on by subjecting women to these kinds of things unwillingly such as flashers... it's not cool to make me a part of some twisted fantasy against my will. it's perverted. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21153184 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:06:25 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21116910
I'm sorry but I don't agree with censoring what I can and cannot watch because some parent doesn't know how to properly screen their children against such things. Often I see kids running up and down the aisle, jumping up and down in their seat, kicking the back of my seat, playing with the stewardess light, etc...while the parent sits there reading some love story not restraining the kid.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21116910 Tue, 16 Sep 2008 00:23:35 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21114244 said by ReVeLaTeD:

said by Nightfall:

said by jc100:

I am adamantly against the use of filters, BUT i think in this case it is something to consider. On a plane, you have LOTS of people in close proximity. If someone is getting off to some porn or viewing obscene material, others are affected by this decision. It's kind of like the fireworks argument. Fireworks are good if you do them in a non populated area. However, if you shoot them off in a busy suburb, you risk lighting someone's house on fire. It's a chance. The same here. Viewing porn in your OWN HOME or whenever in a "private" setting (IE not a library) is fine. Yet, when your choice goes against regard for public safety or the welfare of others, it has potential of being policed due to it's affect on other's. Unless the person viewing the porn wants to buy a laptop hood, I'm all for this decision to block content. I mean there are children and others within view who PROBABLY don't need to see or wish to see some guy's fetish being displayed.
I also agree with you. I am totally against filtering. If I purchased that service on a plane, the last thing I would be doing is viewing porn online. However, there are people who have no thought to people around them. I am sure some moron on a plane would fire up some gay pornography or 2 girls 1 cup and this problem would happen. I expected it to happen within the first week. The fact this happened real fast just proves my point.

The few times I am on a plane in a year, I do fire up a movie. However, I don't watch Basic Instinct or some other R rated flick on my 17 inch widescreen laptop for all to see. If I want to watch something like that, I fire up my Ipod or Iphone. Then I can enjoy the flick on my own and no one can really see it unless they are sitting next to me. If I have a child next to me, which I have had in the past, I listen to music and read a book.

Just because we have these freedoms in our country doesn't mean we need to be assholes. Most of the comments in this section are full of people who agree to not be dorks about this and just filter it. Mainly because of the people who would look at this stuff while on a cramped plane without any care or thought for others.
See, and that's sad. You're refusing to watch an R-rated movie because of the way it might make others feel? So a movie that was good enough to be shown in a public theater is somehow "bad"?

This is what the softness of America has brought us to. And I don't agree with it.

Mind you - I'm a kid at heart. I'd rather play my PSP or DS on a plane, because the time goes faster. Watching porn...it's a quick fix. But even still, that some people wouldn't watch Terminator 2 on an airplane because it's a rated R flick?

What has this country come to...
Watching a rated R movie like Basic Instinct around adults is fine. Around kids, not so much. It all comes down to the people on the plane and who can see my screen. I do it out of kindness to others and there is nothing wrong with being kind to people. Especially when they plop down $400 a ticket to fly to another city. Especially if kids are in the viewing angle.

Would you fire up Saw if you were seated next to a 8 year old girl? If so, I guess thats the difference between you and me. I try to be as open as I can to the wishes of others.....within reason. If someone wants me to turn off The Last Starfighter or Star Wars (PG movie) because they don't like sci-fi violence on a plane, I think thats a little excessive.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21114244 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:31 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21113137 said by Nightfall:

said by jc100:

I am adamantly against the use of filters, BUT i think in this case it is something to consider. On a plane, you have LOTS of people in close proximity. If someone is getting off to some porn or viewing obscene material, others are affected by this decision. It's kind of like the fireworks argument. Fireworks are good if you do them in a non populated area. However, if you shoot them off in a busy suburb, you risk lighting someone's house on fire. It's a chance. The same here. Viewing porn in your OWN HOME or whenever in a "private" setting (IE not a library) is fine. Yet, when your choice goes against regard for public safety or the welfare of others, it has potential of being policed due to it's affect on other's. Unless the person viewing the porn wants to buy a laptop hood, I'm all for this decision to block content. I mean there are children and others within view who PROBABLY don't need to see or wish to see some guy's fetish being displayed.
I also agree with you. I am totally against filtering. If I purchased that service on a plane, the last thing I would be doing is viewing porn online. However, there are people who have no thought to people around them. I am sure some moron on a plane would fire up some gay pornography or 2 girls 1 cup and this problem would happen. I expected it to happen within the first week. The fact this happened real fast just proves my point.

The few times I am on a plane in a year, I do fire up a movie. However, I don't watch Basic Instinct or some other R rated flick on my 17 inch widescreen laptop for all to see. If I want to watch something like that, I fire up my Ipod or Iphone. Then I can enjoy the flick on my own and no one can really see it unless they are sitting next to me. If I have a child next to me, which I have had in the past, I listen to music and read a book.

Just because we have these freedoms in our country doesn't mean we need to be assholes. Most of the comments in this section are full of people who agree to not be dorks about this and just filter it. Mainly because of the people who would look at this stuff while on a cramped plane without any care or thought for others.
See, and that's sad. You're refusing to watch an R-rated movie because of the way it might make others feel? So a movie that was good enough to be shown in a public theater is somehow "bad"?

This is what the softness of America has brought us to. And I don't agree with it.

Mind you - I'm a kid at heart. I'd rather play my PSP or DS on a plane, because the time goes faster. Watching porn...it's a quick fix. But even still, that some people wouldn't watch Terminator 2 on an airplane because it's a rated R flick?

What has this country come to...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21113137 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:10:23 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21108522 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21108522 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 14:08:54 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21105535 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21105535 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:58:42 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21103558 --
CRUNCH THIS! ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21103558 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:08:18 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21103095

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21103095 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 08:44:44 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101977 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101977 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:05:24 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101687
Second just how completely abhorrent American society is in respect to double standards, there is nothing worse than the perceived effrontery's of nudity; has the Europeans wondering what the hell is wrong with Americans and rightly so.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101687 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 22:09:44 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101522 said by Noah Vail:

Some things meet the criteria of porn others don't
If MOST guys aren't ever turned on by a hot girl in a bikini, then it isn't porn. If they are, then it is.So everything arousing to the majority of people (I love how all porn viewers are instantly men in your world as well) constitutes porn?

Think about that definition for a second, just a second.
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Tell ya what, I would love to give you and David a ticket, seats next to each other and guess what....Nothing, none of this would raise it's head..LOL]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101473 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:20:32 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21101357 said by Nerdtalker:

I seriously hope you're being facetious, or have some other explanation. That's nowhere near porn. I'm not being facetious. Really really.

Porn can be simply defined, not perfectly, but pretty darn close.
Porn has criteria. I spelled it out in my post above.

Some things meet the criteria of porn others don't
If MOST guys aren't ever turned on by a hot girl in a bikini, then it isn't porn. If they are, then it is.

said by Nerdtalker:

Clearly you haven't been on the internet long enough to really know what le porn is. I don't know what more to say.
How would more harder core stuff on the internet change what porn is?

It doesn't. Porn is what it is.

Notice I haven't condemned it. I haven't called for legislation against it. All I did is define it and offer one comment on it. That's all.

But it was enough to send some here into conniptions.

Porn is VERY important to some.

NV
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So wait because the second picture STIMULATED YOU its considered porn. sorry but the picture did nothing for me...so why is it porn again?Well, maybe you're a eunuch, or gay, or have some sort of medical issue. Most guys are going to find those girls totally hot; that means sexually. Guys aren't digging the hot babes above for their hair styling secrets. Well most aren't.

Since hot bikini babes don't appeal to you, why do you think most other men really like looking at girls dressed in bikinis? Shopping for their own swimware? Comparing tan and shaving lines?

If the girls weren't someone they'd want to have sex with, guys wouldn't be looking at them.

said by P Ness:

so by your definition Watching a man and a woman kiss on general hospital or any other daytime soap is PORN because it turns someone on?
No.
It's porn if it turns MOST Men on.

Sheesh. Most junior high schooler's have that figured out.

said by P Ness:

Guess baywatch would be considered HARDCORE porn then right?
If Baywatch was staffed full of girls that most guys wouldn't want to have sex with, it'd never made it past the pilot.

So, yep. It's porn. Folks would be more likely to classify it as softcore than hardcore, however.

Do we need to recap?
Will that help you to not twist my post into something it isn't?
Here we go then.

1) A visual that sexually stimulates (turns on, finds hot, whatever) MOST MEN is porn.
2) If the men like looking at them because they're someone they'd want to have sex with, then the men are sexually stimulated. (If you're not sure, put Nancy Pelosi in the same bikini. Still want to look at her? No? It was sexual.)

That's it. Men really aren't all that complicated. I mean women had all this figured out eons ago.

Welcome to the party.

NV
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said by S_engineer:

You would just no longer have a functional laptop among other things.
You are the one trying to be a tough guy. :uhh:
I stated fact. You touch anything of mine without permission, we will have a problem.

Posting nonsensical insinuations on a message board impresses no one.
The fact is, I will protect my property. You touch something that is not yours, bad things might happen.
This applies to anyone's things that are not yours.
No idea who you think you are, but you are not impressing me or anyone else. :D
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said by dadkins:

ROFL!
There is nothing that will get through to the self righteous.
Too true dadkins See Profile. I mean... Sports illustrated is admittedly a bit scandalous, but porn? C'mon, seriously. Jeez...

I've seen more revealing outfits at beaches and practically on college campuses. What kind of sheltered life is Noah Vail See Profile living?
Unknown.
I'm out here in Sunny California.
I see serious shit with just the neighbor washing her car in a tshirt and short shorts.
Hit a beach? Dude!
We have some great beaches here in Cali.
To coin a phrase - "From Mild To Wild!"
How much more public can you get than a beach!
Do some of these people blindfold their kids when they go to the beach - or just never go to the beach?

Ever go anywhere like a park or a pool on a hot summer day?
I have! :)

..........................................................

As for what I have on my laptop(s) at any given time - no matter where I might be, that is up to me!
If anyone doesn't want to see what I have on my display - don't look!
Shouldn't be looking at my screen anyways, right?
It's mine!
*I* paid for it!
What I put on it is for *ME* to look at!
If I feel generous, I may invite someone to look too - but that is *MY* decision and no one elses!

You *steal* a glance at my screen and whatever is on it offends you - ya shouldn't have looked! :p
Ya didn't ask if you could, ya didn't ask what it was - you just immediately thought you could do whatever you wanted with *MY* media!

THEIF! Busybody! Nosey POS!

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ROFL!
There is nothing that will get through to the self righteous.
Too true dadkins See Profile. I mean... Sports illustrated is admittedly a bit scandalous, but porn? C'mon, seriously. Jeez...

I've seen more revealing outfits at beaches and practically on college campuses. What kind of sheltered life is Noah Vail See Profile living?
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you would be shocked how many women watch porn and actually enjoy porn, but hide the fact because people think its not woman like to watch porn.There have been anonymous polls conducted and they indicated that the numbers are a small fraction of the number of men who admit they view porn. I'll grant that the studies all have small samples and may not be conclusive.

The larger point was that they don't get hooked into porn the same way that men do. With men, sex is physical. We have to mature to get to a point where emotion begins to play a meaningful part. The more mature we are sexually, the less likely porn is to play a part in our sexual world.

With women the sexual component is emotional at the get go. The sexual attention they get from showing it off gives them sexual stimulation. Flirting in chat rooms would be another example. It's not a perfect counterpoint, but it's a close as it comes.

The result is that the number of women who are sexually addicted are signifigantly lower than men. Porn is a shot straight to the male brain. The neurochemical response is repeatedly equated to opiods.
(Mayo Clin Proc. 2008;83(2):226-230)

Women don't have the instant gratification aspect that we do. They have to work harder for it. I believe we'll always have fewer women as sex addicts then men.

Unless of course
that enough of them have their self esteems degraded
by being objectified due to pornography
that they're willing to reduce themselves
to get the attention
they should have had from us all along.

Then all bets are off.

NV
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said by Noah Vail:

said by dadkins:

Is this porn?
First - No.

Second - Yes.
I seriously hope you're being facetious, or have some other explanation. That's nowhere near porn.

Clearly you haven't been on the internet long enough to really know what le porn is.

I don't know what more to say.
ROFL!
There is nothing that will get through to the self righteous.
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No one is forcing you to look at my - anything.
If you are too damn nosey to mind you own business and take it upon yourself to purposely look at *MY* screen - and whatever is on *MY* screen offends you - Tough shit!
*YOU* should not have been so damn nosey pal!

Let it go!
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said by dadkins:

Is this porn?
First - No.

Second - Yes.
I seriously hope you're being facetious, or have some other explanation. That's nowhere near porn.

Clearly you haven't been on the internet long enough to really know what le porn is.

I don't know what more to say.
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100948 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:33:58 EDT Re: Can you understand this one? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Can-you-understand-this-one-21100908 said by dadkins:

Look friend, no one is forcing you to look at anything I or anyone else posts or has on *OUR* screen anywhere.Did I say that you did?

said by dadkins:

If you are so nosey that you have to look at my screen deal with whatever I might have displayed on it.
When did I try to do that?

said by dadkins:

Why do I look at anything? Because *I* want to!
Well, OK then.

said by dadkins:

Nunya Damn Business what I have on my display, is it? Also nunya Damn Business WHY I have it on *MY* display!
Did I say that it was?

said by dadkins:

Take your attitude and... live with it.
How nice of you to offer me what I already have.

said by dadkins:

Anytime you try to force your beliefs or morals on someone, expect them to possibly tell you where to get off(pun intended).
Can you give and example where I have forced my beliefs on anyone?

said by dadkins:

My screen, right?
My hard drive, right? What gives you the right to be looking at my personal data?
What gives you the right to burn down orphanages? Or perhaps we could return the conversation to things that are actually occurring?

said by dadkins:

On top of that, even after you stick your nose where it doesn't belong, you certainly do not have any right to state anything about what you should never have been rubbernecking to see. LOL!
Hmm. So, you're here to express your view of pornography. And to damn me for expressing mine. Very nice.

said by dadkins:

This is 2008
Good Job. Yea!

said by dadkins:

means, women have the right to wear(or not wear) anything they damn well please - for whatever reason they see fit!
Where have I tried to prevent anyone from exercising their right to do anything?

said by dadkins:

You would likely have a coronary if you ever go to a beach - women wear swimsuits of all varying kinds at a beach!
Gee Whiz! My heart must be tough as iron to survive the nudist resorts and beaches I mentioned in the earlier post.

Of course knowing that might have you responding to something I actually said.

said by dadkins:

Would you start preaching at them for doing what they wish, LEGALLY, in this free society we call the United States?
No. But I would share the consequences with them, so they could make better informed decisions. An idea, that seems to has whipped you into a delusional frenzy.

You mention preaching and legality in the same sentence as if they had something to do with each other.

said by dadkins:

If you think that society is wrong for allowing such things - tough! This is reality in the 21st century.
I believe I indicated the word unhealthy, not wrong. I simply put forth that mainstreaming porn leaves a society isn't as healthy as it could be. You find that belief intolerable?

said by dadkins:

Thanks for trying but failing.:DOne more guys?The Cover of GQ, apparently another porno mag! :uhh:Click for full size: HREF= "httpx://blistering.brutal.image/that_proves_his/whole_arguement/just_by_being/here">
In any of my posts, the only action I advocated was for men to channel their sexual energies to their mates. It advisory and fully free of legislative tendencies.

Which immediately prompted you to cry our against my...
looking at images on your screen,
access your personal data,
limiting what you look at,
stating my point of view (while you went on and on with your own),
FORCING my views on others,
imposing restrictions what women wear,
damning society for wrongness,
keeling over at a public beach,
and something about affecting laws through preaching.

All while you never even addressed the content in my post.

With all due respect, the words that best describe your posting would be frothing, delusional paranoia.

Which is the reaction I thought I'd eventually get.

NV
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I can give you an equal amount of organizations that would say that the above is porn....doesn't mean it is. And when your laptop is open in the seat that *I* paid for in the seat next to *ME* and you're watching sadistic movie with Big Girls and horses,then your fetish has become an infection to *ME*
My laptop in a seat you paid for? Put down the pipe! :huh:

What gives you the right to be looking at my screen?
I paid for my videos, you didn't!
I get to watch my media - you look elsewhere for your freebies friend!

You violate my personal space & data, whatever that may be, and we will have a problem.

You are losing this debate. Best I have to offer you is that if we are ever on a plane in the same row, watch your own damn screen and not mine! :p

Whether I have porn on my screen, the latest WWE SuperSlam, or Hellboy II... it should stay my business and not yours.

No! You cannot watch my I, Robot Blu-ray.
Neither can your kids watch my Blu-ray of Ratatouille or Meet The Robinsons.
I see you or them trying, I'll say something to you - and ya won't like it!

See how that works?
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said by P Ness:

MY WIFE watches more porn then i do.....
Well that's really groovy, but I'm pretty sure it makes her a statistical freak.
I had a friend who has a Yugo, and he said it was the best car he ever owned. I guess there had to be one.

said by P Ness:

but you don't let your women do things like watch porn or vote do you?
Well, I only have sons, no daughters, so that would be woman. I don't recall that she ever followed an instruction I've given.

The idea of me telling her what to do is likely to set her off into a fit of giggles.

NV
you would be shocked how many women watch porn and actually enjoy porn, but hide the fact because people think its not woman like to watch porn.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Can-you-understand-this-one-21100819 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:11:12 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100772 --
The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100772 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 17:02:16 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100758 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100758 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:59:10 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100750 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100750 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:57:15 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100726
The only way to get images from xnxx on your screen it for *YOU* to go there and agree ti the disclaimer then enter.
180Solutions - Zango is crap.
We get to remove that shit all the time because it infests machines.

Kaspersky deems it as adware and will remove it.
»www.viruslist.com/en/viruses/enc···id=61639

not-a-virus:AdWare.180solutions (Kaspersky Lab) is also known as: TR/Dldr.Istbar.BY.3 (H+BEDV), Adware.Ncase.D (SOFTWIN), Trojan.Spy.Ncase-2 (ClamAV), Adware/nCase (Panda)

Is that good enough for you? ;)
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The "Lifetime" channel is responsible for 83% of all divorces...Robert Ginty]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100657 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:35:58 EDT Re: Can you understand this one? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Can-you-understand-this-one-21100537 said by P Ness:

MY WIFE watches more porn then i do.....Well that's really groovy, but I'm pretty sure it makes her a statistical freak.
I had a friend who has a Yugo, and he said it was the best car he ever owned. I guess there had to be one.

said by P Ness:

but you don't let your women do things like watch porn or vote do you?
Well, I only have sons, no daughters, so that would be woman. I don't recall that she ever followed an instruction I've given.

The idea of me telling her what to do is likely to set her off into a fit of giggles.

NV
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Why do I look at anything? Because *I* want to!
Nunya Damn Business what I have on my display, is it?
Also nunya Damn Business WHY I have it on *MY* display!

Take your attitude and... live with it.
Anytime you try to force your beliefs or morals on someone, expect them to possibly tell you where to get off(pun intended).

My screen, right?
My hard drive, right?
What gives you the right to be looking at my personal data?
On top of that, even after you stick your nose where it doesn't belong, you certainly do not have any right to state anything about what you should never have been rubbernecking to see. LOL!

This is 2008 means, women have the right to wear(or not wear) anything they damn well please - for whatever reason they see fit!
You would likely have a coronary if you ever go to a beach - women wear swimsuits of all varying kinds at a beach!
Would you start preaching at them for doing what they wish, LEGALLY, in this free society we call the United States?

If you think that society is wrong for allowing such things - tough! This is reality in the 21st century.

Thanks for trying but failing. :D

One more guys?

The Cover of GQ, apparently another porno mag! :uhh:

Click for full size:


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said by P Ness:

WAIT THE SECOND PICTURE IS PORN?
in what world is a girl in a baithing suit porn?
You posted my answer below, but we'll have another go at it.

Porn is a visual that sexually stimulates. The indicator isn't the amount of clothing, it's the amount of stimulation. Having been to enough nude beaches and resorts, I think swimsuit photos way more pornographic than the nude bodies walking around.

said by P Ness:

"The first image doesn't hook into the male sexual drive and has no ability to originate a path of addiction."

BTW the second image does in fact drive some males and females sexual drive. enough examples of that just from teachers and underaged students.
Naturally arising sexual response to porn by women is rare. I've never known a women who was, not even among my lesbian friends. I've read about women who were conditioned to it.

A woman's counterpoint to porn is exhibitionism.

said by P Ness:

its also quite interesting for one person point of view to be considered "clear" and you consider everyone else's POV grey area....must be a christian
Seems kind of dull to me. Where did I consider someone's point of view to be clear and everyone else's a gray area?

NV
So wait because the second picture STIMULATED YOU its considered porn. sorry but the picture did nothing for me...so why is it porn again?

so by your definition Watching a man and a woman kiss on general hospital or any other daytime soap is PORN because it turns someone on? Guess baywatch would be considered HARDCORE porn then right?
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www.stopfcc.com I do not think the government needs to restrict free speech especially on a device that has an off knob.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100496 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:11:10 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100293 said by yabos:

Just yell out "WHY ARE YOU MASTURBATING TO PORN ON THE AIRPLANE" if you see it and the person will be embarrassed and probably not do it again. I don't see why anyone has to be filtered because it never works.
Some people have no embarrassment factor. I personally know people would would flip on 2 girls 1 cup just to see the reactions around the plane. They have no shame.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100293 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:39:18 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100288 said by r81984:

There is no need to ban anything.
If there is a problem, the person needs to get a flight attendant and they will stop the person.

Also, if they ban some internet sites can they please ban babies. I hate when they cry the whole damn flight.
Its Flight Attendant....not Baby Sitter.
Wait, this is the USA. Nevermind. Same thing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100288 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:38:26 EDT Re: Can you understand this one? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Can-you-understand-this-one-21100273 said by dadkins:

Nearly everyone else here at DSLR, why?
Because it's become socially acceptable.

Why do you want to look at girls in bikinis? Is it for the high fashion? Are you trying to figure out what skin moisturizer she's using and you need a whole lot of skin to really tell?

I doubt it. You're checking out the swimsuits, because it turns on your sex drive, like pretty much every male.

That's natural. It also transforms women into objects for sexual gratification. I think that's natural too.

But it isn't healthy for men to embrace the idea of women as objects for sexstim. It isolates sexual stimulation from love and interferes with the growth of a bond between a man and his mate.

If your goals in your marriage include the strongest possible pairing between you and your wife, then always striving to keep that sexual energy focused on her, might be a really great way to help that along.

said by dadkins:

Better go crawl back under that rock NV. This *IS* 2008, right? I'd love to see you at a beach! LOL!
I'm not sure that any of that meant anything. Well, thanks for playing along.

NV
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I am adamantly against the use of filters, BUT i think in this case it is something to consider. On a plane, you have LOTS of people in close proximity. If someone is getting off to some porn or viewing obscene material, others are affected by this decision. It's kind of like the fireworks argument. Fireworks are good if you do them in a non populated area. However, if you shoot them off in a busy suburb, you risk lighting someone's house on fire. It's a chance. The same here. Viewing porn in your OWN HOME or whenever in a "private" setting (IE not a library) is fine. Yet, when your choice goes against regard for public safety or the welfare of others, it has potential of being policed due to it's affect on other's. Unless the person viewing the porn wants to buy a laptop hood, I'm all for this decision to block content. I mean there are children and others within view who PROBABLY don't need to see or wish to see some guy's fetish being displayed.
I also agree with you. I am totally against filtering. If I purchased that service on a plane, the last thing I would be doing is viewing porn online. However, there are people who have no thought to people around them. I am sure some moron on a plane would fire up some gay pornography or 2 girls 1 cup and this problem would happen. I expected it to happen within the first week. The fact this happened real fast just proves my point.

The few times I am on a plane in a year, I do fire up a movie. However, I don't watch Basic Instinct or some other R rated flick on my 17 inch widescreen laptop for all to see. If I want to watch something like that, I fire up my Ipod or Iphone. Then I can enjoy the flick on my own and no one can really see it unless they are sitting next to me. If I have a child next to me, which I have had in the past, I listen to music and read a book.

Just because we have these freedoms in our country doesn't mean we need to be assholes. Most of the comments in this section are full of people who agree to not be dorks about this and just filter it. Mainly because of the people who would look at this stuff while on a cramped plane without any care or thought for others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21100262 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:34:21 EDT Re: When a want becomes a need.... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-When-a-want-becomes-a-need-21100141 said by dadkins:

said by Noah Vail:

So, what other issues
have you defended as passionately,
in the last month?

NV
I was about to ask you the same thing...

EDIT: Nevermind! I don't want to know. :uhh:
I can answer your question.
Can you answer mine?

NV
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WAIT THE SECOND PICTURE IS PORN?
in what world is a girl in a baithing suit porn?You posted my answer below, but we'll have another go at it.

Porn is a visual that sexually stimulates. The indicator isn't the amount of clothing, it's the amount of stimulation. Having been to enough nude beaches and resorts, I think swimsuit photos way more pornographic than the nude bodies walking around.

said by P Ness:

"The first image doesn't hook into the male sexual drive and has no ability to originate a path of addiction."

BTW the second image does in fact drive some males and females sexual drive. enough examples of that just from teachers and underaged students.
Naturally arising sexual response to porn by women is rare. I've never known a women who was, not even among my lesbian friends. I've read about women who were conditioned to it.

A woman's counterpoint to porn is exhibitionism.

said by P Ness:

its also quite interesting for one person point of view to be considered "clear" and you consider everyone else's POV grey area....must be a christian
Seems kind of dull to me. Where did I consider someone's point of view to be clear and everyone else's a gray area?

NV
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said by dadkins:

So, Sports Illustrated is a Porn mag now?
The swimsuit issue is a porn mag. It is, of late, a socially acceptable porn mag. That's something that changed in my lifetime.

said by dadkins:

WTF?
Wet Tooth Fairies?

said by dadkins:

Dude! I have links that will probably kill you if you think the Swimsuit Issue of SI is porn!
Well, that's really great. Your mother and your wife must be very proud of you. Probably links to the Wet Tooth Faries.

So, uh, who do you get to share your, um, hobby with?

NV
MY WIFE watches more porn then i do.....but you don't let your women do things like watch porn or vote do you?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Can-you-understand-this-one-21100099 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:05:30 EDT Re: Can you understand this one? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Can-you-understand-this-one-21100063
»sportsillustrated.cnn.com/featur···wimsuit/



Better go crawl back under that rock NV.
This *IS* 2008, right?

I'd love to see you at a beach! LOL!
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So, what other issues
have you defended as passionately,
in the last month?

NV
I was about to ask you the same thing...

EDIT: Nevermind! I don't want to know. :uhh:
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So, Sports Illustrated is a Porn mag now?The swimsuit issue is a porn mag. It is, of late, a socially acceptable porn mag. That's something that changed in my lifetime.

said by dadkins:

WTF?
Wet Tooth Fairies?

said by dadkins:

Dude! I have links that will probably kill you if you think the Swimsuit Issue of SI is porn!
Well, that's really great. Your mother and your wife must be very proud of you. Probably links to the Wet Tooth Faries.

So, uh, who do you get to share your, um, hobby with?

NV]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Can-you-understand-this-one-21100006 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:50:31 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21099913 said by Noah Vail:

said by dadkins:

Is this porn?
First - No.

Second - Yes.

Why would that be remotely difficult to figure out?

The first image doesn't hook into the male sexual drive and has no ability to originate a path of addiction.

The second image one does.

It's interesting to watch folks energetically muddy the waters in their relentless quest to have everyone declare it's an unjudgeable gray area.

NV
WAIT THE SECOND PICTURE IS PORN?

in what world is a girl in a baithing suit porn?

"The first image doesn't hook into the male sexual drive and has no ability to originate a path of addiction."

BTW the second image does in fact drive some males and females sexual drive. enough examples of that just from teachers and underaged students.

its also quite interesting for one person point of view to be considered "clear" and you consider everyone else's POV grey area....

must be a christian]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21099913 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:34:32 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21099888
WTF?
Dude! I have links that will probably kill you if you think the Swimsuit Issue of SI is porn!
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21099888 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:29:50 EDT Re: I can understand this one... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21099867
Since my posts are mainly posted as queries about who decides what is or is not porn, what does that have to do with advertisements and data-mining?

Spyware is not the same classification ad porn, is it?

*I* decide what does or does not get displayed on my laptop screen, right?
"You Got Mail"

"Hi David, just wanted to send these pics from out vacation in Bali.
Some topless and even pointless swimsuits were seen.
See Shirley(my niece - 3 years old) running away from the waves."

See attachments.

Try to go to sisters website - blocked as it has naked babies and semi-naked kids playing in a pool.

How the hell to you try and associate Playboy or simple email attachments with spyware companies?
:huh:

I have a folder here with all kinds of "neat pics" in it.
Screw their internet!
Better block Google too, right?
Do tell, what do you see when you Google - Hustler ?
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Is this porn? First - No.

Second - Yes.

Why would that be remotely difficult to figure out?

The first image doesn't hook into the male sexual drive and has no ability to originate a path of addiction.

The second image one does.

It's interesting to watch folks energetically muddy the waters in their relentless quest to have everyone declare it's an unjudgeable gray area.

NV]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-I-can-understand-this-one-21099863 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:25:39 EDT