Large Hadron Collider hacked in Security

Large Hadron Collider hacked in Security http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21102122 en Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:06:18 EDT Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:06:18 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21160161 alien8 : Not that this will add much to the topic but... here's a live webcam of the hack taking place:

»www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21160161 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:39:07 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21160106 anon : Remember the Wise Old Saying, "Beware of Geeks bearing Gifs"]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21160106 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:31:22 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21151659 dentman42 :

said by dave

said by KiZiller :

I wonder why they decided to hook it to the Internet.

Because that's what the Internet is for?

So you're saying the LHC is for pr0n? :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21151659 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 19:14:52 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127908 JohnInSJ :

said by dave

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Remember who employed the guy who invented it?

Larry Flynt?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127908 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:50:03 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127881 dave :

said by KiZiller :

I wonder why they decided to hook it to the Internet.

Because that's what the Internet is for? It wasn't actually put together for shopping.

And it's definitely what the Web is for. Remember who employed the guy who invented it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127881 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:45:49 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111712 mikenolan7 : I would have to say that being stretched further and further for eternity at the event horizon of a black hole would probably work as a definition of hell. Not exactly snuffed out anyway.

"We have several levels of network, a general access network and a much tighter network for sensitive things that operate the LHC," said Gillies.

They defaced a website, and hacked into a data gathering system, not the control system. There would be no reason to put strong protections on the data gathering system. It's science, the data will be distributed to almost anyone that wants it anyway.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111712 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 07:42:50 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111368 anon :

said by IGGY

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... the security and safety measures to protect the Universe from being eaten up into a black hole?

Relax. The creator has made it very clear how the earth will end, and it's gonna be a helluva lot worse than getting mercifully snuffed by a black hole.
:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111368 Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:24:59 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21111254 Steve : Um, if you hack my website, does it mean you've hacked my network?

Most thoughtful people don't believe those are the same thing.
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IMO they should have tightened the system from day zero and that's what the Greek squad tried to prove.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21106724 Sun, 14 Sep 2008 00:43:08 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21106687 jp10558 : Generally Scientists(Physicists) are not Computer Security Specialists. Seeing as how they are in two totally different fields of endevor.

Secondly, generally funding is very very tight, and of course - no one wants to pay for something they don't see as important. Finally, there's the time factor - there's lots of computer stuff to do that is directly involved in carrying out the experiment, where as a firewall config is not, and so lower priority.

I'll be interested in what they do to make it harder to attack in the future.
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And be less alarmist, some things have to be done. There's no other way. Universities all over the world want this data and there's no way that you're going to be sending undergrads on flights every few hours with a few cases of HDD's back and forth to get it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21104490 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:41:01 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102769 anon : I wonder why they decided to hook it to the Internet. Now it is probably root-kitted. Keep an eye out for some freaky spam particles.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102769 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 04:29:15 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102509 Mashiki : Less scare stories IMO, I'll worry if they get access to the CIS or the grid.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102509 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 01:31:23 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102423 m0d : .. and pure "skiddies" .. as the Green on Black text should make "obvious".. any hacker intending "real harm" or "headline grabbing stuff" will NOT behave like them.. ever.

I am on the side of CERN and other ppl that LOL @ them

Sure it should not happen .. but what harm was really done? PRESS is the root of all evil..

REALLY funny .. when ppl like "Steve Gibbson" are considered "alarmist".. would you not apply the SAME rule to this? IF NOT.. why? They got NOWHERE NEAR anything important.. so why worry?

Our old friend .. the FUD term .. 100% applies is all .. just why do I need to be first to mention it? ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102423 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:56:00 EDT Re: Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102286 Steve :

said by Psicop

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Or should I say,a bunch of schoolkids in terms of computer security.

Well, better that nuclear scientists are fooling with software, than with software guys fooling with nuclear physics ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102286 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:15:34 EDT Large Hadron Collider hacked http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102122 Psicop : Greek hackers have attacked a website associated with the atom-smashing Large Hadron Collider, posting a message on the site to prove they had infiltrated CERN's security.

Calling themselves "GST" or "Greek Security Team", the hackers targeted the site to expose vulnerabilities in its security, describing technicians working on it as "a bunch of schoolkids".

However, it seems that the hackers had no intention of interfering with the Large Hadron Collider itself, so people worried about black holes and strangelets can breathe a sigh of relief.

The hacked website - www.cmsmon.cern.ch - can no longer be viewed by the public. Only one file was damaged but one of CERN's scientists described the attack as "a scary experience".

James Gillies, spokesman for Cern, told the Telegraph: "There seems to be no harm done. From what they can tell, it was someone making the point that CMS was hackable. It was quickly detected."

»www.webuser.co.uk/news/267669.html

More detailed info here:

»www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.j···n312.xml

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Hilarious, scientists that can't even protect what they built themselves.

Or should I say,a bunch of schoolkids in terms of computer security.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21102122 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:32:37 EDT