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Dogfather
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join:2007-12-26
Laguna Hills, CA

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reply to Lazlow

Re: Oddly, increased deployment of cheap tiers hurts our aver.

"Japan" doesn't have 20/20 for less, some parts of it do. And again, this data doesn't show what is available, only what people are buying. While 20/20 may be more than you're willing to spend today, the most important factor is that the infrastructure needs to be able to support it. Unfortunately this study doesn't tell us if that is the case or not. Prices, if high now will come down in time. It always does.

But as someone who had 50/20, it's very overrated. Some people here think it would change their lives. I had trouble finding data sources that could even serve me anywhere close to 50Mb.

Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

Most cities have 20/20 available and most large cities have 100/100 available(in Japan for both). The 100/100 has gone up little since the last time I checked. It is now just under $60/month.

»asahi-net.jp/en/service/ftth.html


NormanS
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Probably 80% of the population of Japan lives in cities, with as much as 60% in the larger cities. The largest cities are on the Kanto plain (Tokyo, Yokohama) and on the Kansai plain (Kyoto, Osaka). Only as far apart as San Francisco from Los Angeles, in California. Move 80% of the U.S. population to those two cities, and suddenly 100/100 Internet will be economically feasible in the U.S.A.
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Lazlow

join:2006-08-07
Saint Louis, MO

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The lines running city to city part of the equation is not the problem. It is within city (node to home, etc) that is the problem. While the density argument is somewhat appropriate, it not nearly as applicable when comparing our cities to their cities. The density differences (their cities to ours) is just not that great. Certainly not enough to account for 100/100 (there) being the same price as 5/512(here).



Boogeyman
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reply to Dogfather
Thats very true. Hell, I have had trouble maxing out my 8/1 connection. But, if we had say, two children and two adults trying to use the connection at the same time, it would slow to a crawl.

So in households where there are multiple users trying to use the connection at the same time, 50/20 would be a massive help.
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NormanS
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reply to Lazlow

said by Lazlow:

The lines running city to city part of the equation is not the problem. It is within city (node to home, etc) that is the problem. While the density argument is somewhat appropriate, it not nearly as applicable when comparing our cities to their cities. The density differences (their cities to ours) is just not that great. Certainly not enough to account for 100/100 (there) being the same price as 5/512(here).
Ah. I see. There are as many people in the S.F. Bay Area as on the Kanto plain of Japan (surrounding S.F. and Tokyo Bays); as many people in Greater Los Angeles as on the Kansai plain (Kyoto, Kobe, Osaka). Gotcha!
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Norman
~Oh Lord, why have you come
~To Konnyu, with the Lion and the Drum

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