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inferno

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reply to sortofageek

Re: Comcast throttling Netflix's Instant Watch?

said by sortofageek:

No, I am having no problems watching Netflix movies.

If you would like forum assistance, please read the following link and answer the questions in a post here.

»Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ »How To Get Help!
None of that is going to help if Comcast is causing the problems. Let me ask, did you recently get that firmware update like the rest of us? It started when my modem upgraded...

I am also wondering if anyone else is having this problem, no one is able to fix it since its on Comcast's end, so I am getting a consensus...


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My Linksys modem received a firmware upgrade, yes.

Edit: OK, I just tried a Netflix instant play and it started instantly.



inferno

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said by sortofageek:

My Linksys modem received a firmware upgrade, yes.

Edit: OK, I just tried a Netflix instant play and it started instantly.
Ok try something, try to watch this movie:
»www.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid···d=188469

I am buffering right now, says its going to take 2 hours till it starts, also, I am using a Motorolla 5100 modem.

PS - I am only having problems on netflix, no other site is slow


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War Games tested connection briefly and then started with no issues.

I don't doubt you are having a problem with your connection, but I believe your guess as to the cause is most likely wrong.
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inferno

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Well here is another screenshot, its downloading at 170kbps and the video is on the lowest setting (the crappiest setting)



inferno

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reply to sortofageek

said by sortofageek:

War Games tested connection briefly and then started with no issues.

I don't doubt you are having a problem with your connection, but I believe your guess as to the cause is most likely wrong.
Well, nothing else is slow. Youtube, gametrailers (HD), Hulu (HD) are super fast. Its nothing to do with my connection if that is the only site thats slow... I also provided a link to where other people are having the same slow downs when trying to watch movies...

I don't know, I just know thats its not on my end because the link shows multiple people are having the problem...


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There are people here who can help you, but only if you answer the questions so they have something to go on.
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inferno

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said by sortofageek:

There are people here who can help you, but only if you answer the questions so they have something to go on.
The only thing I can post is ping info and a traceroute, which shows my ping is under 68ms... The signal to my modem is great, so I don't know what else to post that people can help with since this is the only site I am having problems with...


inferno

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bump... anyone else having this problem...?



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reply to inferno
Have you called the Netflix help desk? I had a problem getting Instant Watch one time. I called the help desk. They had me reboot my computer and I felt really "S L O W" when that resolved the issue.

I had tried deleting all temp files, clearing cookies, restarting browser, etc., to no avail before calling.
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inferno

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said by sortofageek:

Have you called the Netflix help desk? I had a problem getting Instant Watch one time. I called the help desk. They had me reboot my computer and I felt really "S L O W" when that resolved the issue.

I had tried deleting all temp files, clearing cookies, restarting browser, etc., to no avail before calling.
I have run it on multiple computers, I run CCleaner (erases all temp,cache,etc)

I know what I am doing I have tested it on multiple computers and all of them are loading the content slow... Only happens on netflix, its working great with gametrailers.com's HD videos


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I sortothought I knew what I was doing, too. Something about using their software and a need to reboot once in awhile. I didn't think of it because I never need to reboot to clear an issue with any other software I run.

Still, I am gathering you don't want suggestions, so I'll just mind my own business now. Best wishes for resolving your problem.
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inferno

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said by sortofageek:

I sortothought I knew what I was doing, too. Something about using their software and a need to reboot once in awhile. I didn't think of it because I never need to reboot to clear an issue with any other software I run.

Still, I am gathering you don't want suggestions, so I'll just mind my own business now. Best wishes for resolving your problem.
I know your trying to help, but I have done everything I can think of. Your just telling me that netflix would want me to restart my computer, which I have already done. I have restarted the router, modem. I have gotten the ping/latency, changed my DNS.

I have done everything I can think of, but nothing has worked. I know a lot of people on this forum are "n00bs" but I am not one of them :P


pflog
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So how about posting a traceroute to the server that it connects to?

If you're "not a n00b", why not download and install wireshark and pcap and do a packet capture while trying to view the movie and post it here and/or review it for indications of packet loss/etc?
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inferno

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Update:

Just contacted netflix, we went over multiple steps. He was unable to help with my situation. He said that the netflix servers were up and they had no problems on their end, they told me to contact Comcast if I was having problems... And you all know, Comcast won't even know what I am talking about...



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said by inferno:

Update:

Just contacted netflix, we went over multiple steps. He was unable to help with my situation. He said that the netflix servers were up and they had no problems on their end, they told me to contact Comcast if I was having problems... And you all know, Comcast won't even know what I am talking about...
We can't help either if you won't post any debug information...Please see »Comcast High Speed Internet FAQ »How To Get Help! which was requested of you already.
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inferno

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Here is the traceroute netflix wanted me to run:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
 
C:\Windows\system32>pathping -q 50 index.ehub.netflix.com
 
Tracing route to index.ehub.netflix.com [69.53.255.20]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
  0  DGM-PC [192.168.1.7]
  1  192.168.1.1
  2  73.4.25.1
  3  ge-1-38-ur01.jacksonsouth.ms.malt.comcast.net [68.86.245.129]
  4  te-8-1-ur01.florence.ms.malt.comcast.net [68.86.241.30]
  5  te-9-1-ur02.jacksonnorth.ms.malt.comcast.net [68.86.241.17]
  6  68.86.241.54
  7  pos-3-1-ar01.dannythomas.tn.malt.comcast.net [68.86.240.109]
  8  te-0-0-0-5-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.91.45]
  9  xe-5-1-0.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.71.198.41]
 10  vlan89.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.68.19.190]
 11  ae-83-83.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.69.136.161]
 12  ae-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.132.77]
 13  ae-62-62.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.69.137.18]
 14  ae-14-69.car4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.68.20.6]
 15  NETFLIX-INC.car4.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [4.71.128.66]
 16     *        *        *
Computing statistics for 187 seconds...
            Source to Here   This Node/Link
Hop  RTT    Lost/Sent = Pct  Lost/Sent = Pct  Address
  0                                           DGM-PC [192.168.1.7]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  1    0ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  192.168.1.1
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  2   28ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  73.4.25.1
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  3   26ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  ge-1-38-ur01.jacksonsouth.ms.malt.
comcast.net [68.86.245.129]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  4   22ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  te-8-1-ur01.florence.ms.malt.comca
st.net [68.86.241.30]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  5   25ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  te-9-1-ur02.jacksonnorth.ms.malt.c
omcast.net [68.86.241.17]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  6   25ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  68.86.241.54
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  7   35ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  pos-3-1-ar01.dannythomas.tn.malt.c
omcast.net [68.86.240.109]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  8   39ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  te-0-0-0-5-cr01.dallas.tx.ibone.co
mcast.net [68.86.91.45]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
  9   44ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  xe-5-1-0.edge3.Dallas1.Level3.net
[4.71.198.41]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
 10   51ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  vlan89.csw3.Dallas1.Level3.net [4.
68.19.190]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
 11   51ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  ae-83-83.ebr3.Dallas1.Level3.net [
4.69.136.161]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
 12   87ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  ae-3.ebr2.LosAngeles1.Level3.net [
4.69.132.77]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
 13   81ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  ae-62-62.csw1.LosAngeles1.Level3.n
et [4.69.137.18]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
 14   82ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  ae-14-69.car4.LosAngeles1.Level3.n
et [4.68.20.6]
                                0/  50 =  0%   |
 15   82ms     0/  50 =  0%     0/  50 =  0%  NETFLIX-INC.car4.LosAngeles1.Level
3.net [4.71.128.66]
 
Trace complete.
 

Here is my modem log:





Pingplotter (stops at the end when it gets to their central server)


pflog
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Can you show us a screen shot (or transcribe the values) for the signal page for the modem? The SNR/power levels/etc could be marginal.

The pings look ok, a spike or two but no packet loss along the route.

Are you certain that's the server you are actually connected to while you're viewing the movie?

While you're connected and viewing the movie, check netstat or similar to find out the exact IP you are connected to, then run a ping plot/traceroute against it.
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inferno

join:2008-07-06

said by pflog:

Can you show us a screen shot (or transcribe the values) for the signal page for the modem? The SNR/power levels/etc could be marginal.

The pings look ok, a spike or two but no packet loss along the route.

Are you certain that's the server you are actually connected to while you're viewing the movie?

While you're connected and viewing the movie, check netstat or similar to find out the exact IP you are connected to, then run a ping plot/traceroute against it.
I just updated the screenshot in the post above, here is the netstat info when I was watching one of the movies:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6001]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.
 
C:\Users\DGM>netstat
 
Active Connections
 
  Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address        State
  TCP    127.0.0.1:62962        DGM-PC:62963           ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:62963        DGM-PC:62962           ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:62964        DGM-PC:62965           ESTABLISHED
  TCP    127.0.0.1:62965        DGM-PC:62964           ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64260      www:http               TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64262      img227:http            TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64268      www:http               TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64269      www:http               TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64277      207.68.173.231:http    ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64291      65.55.249.67:http      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64292      65.55.249.67:http      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64294      65.55.239.188:http     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64295      64.86.183.123:http     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64296      65.55.197.126:http     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64297      65.55.197.126:http     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64308      65.55.249.67:http      ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64313      64.86.183.145:http     ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64315      www:http               ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64317      www:http               ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64318      www:http               ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64326      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64337      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64357      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64374      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  CLOSING
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64378      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64390      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  LAST_ACK
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64391      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  LAST_ACK
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64392      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  LAST_ACK
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64393      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  LAST_ACK
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64402      image:http             ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64425      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64442      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  CLOSING
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64450      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64458      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64459      cdn-68-142-122-70:http  TIME_WAIT
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64478      www:http               ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64479      www:http               ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64480      cdn-68-142-123-254:http  ESTABLISHED
  TCP    192.168.1.7:64481      www:http               CLOSE_WAIT
 
 


pflog
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Ok line stats look great.

As for the netstat output, none of those IPs' whois info mentions "netflix". Most of them are registered to Microsoft, and two of them are registered to Limelight (I'm guessing it's these?).

But to be sure, grab TCPView, it will show you which tcp ports are used by which processes. Correlate netflix to the IP, then once you have that IP, run a ping plotter against that IP for at least 5 minutes or so (and tell ping plotter to record every entry and to query once per second).
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