Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY | reply to ViperNY
Re: [iO] FIOS & Cable box use coax, so are they both just as fas
I was merely pointing out your misconception that HD is uncompressed on FiOS. It's still compressed, just not by Verizon. Not even talking about CV here.. It's just unfair to say HD on Verizon is uncompressed when it definitely is not. |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| said by Thinkdiff  :I was merely pointing out your misconception that HD is uncompressed on FiOS. It's still compressed, just not by Verizon. Not even talking about CV here.. It's just unfair to say HD on Verizon is uncompressed when it definitely is not. There is a big difference... Verizon passes the HD as they receive it onto the customer... Cablevision USED to do that, but on some channels, they are compressing them too much. I was amazed at the SD picture quality on Verizon as well... not only was Verizon passing the HD signal to customers as they receive it... they appear to be passing the SD signal the same way... and they have more SD channels, without the use of Switched Video... so if you ask me, it's clear that Fiber is much, much more robust. Cablevision needs to upgrade so they have more space... getting rid of analog will help, but the fact remains they are using SDV, which is horrible. And that suggests that they aren't going to be upgrading, but instead squeezing whatever they can into the space they currently have. |
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Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
| That's nice and all.. but completely ignoring my point. I never said Verizon's PQ isn't higher than CV's. I have no idea if it is, as I don't have either service.
The person I was replying to stated FiOS is uncompressed video. It is not. End of story. Doesn't matter how much better than CV it is, that's not even the point. It's still compressed. |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| said by Thinkdiff :That's nice and all.. but completely ignoring my point. I never said Verizon's PQ isn't higher than CV's. I have no idea if it is, as I don't have either service. The person I was replying to stated FiOS is uncompressed video. It is not. End of story. Doesn't matter how much better than CV it is, that's not even the point. It's still compressed. But that point is all semantics... digital video is always compressed somehow... even in the facility it originates from, it's compressed... |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
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You do realise that verizons video is setup pretty much the same way right?
The thing is that nobody complained when verizon got rid of their analog but you guys complain when cablevision wants to do it.
verizon uses the same 850mhz type system . When cablevision gets rid of all their analog and upgrades to docsis 3 we should see better pic quality. |
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JDCMAN
join:2006-02-23
Somers, NY
 ·Optimum Online
| If I remember, Verizon also charges no fee for the first 3 HD boxes. With cablevision, you'd be paying about $20 in rental fees per month for that equipment. You might not pay an HD channel fee, but you do pay rental fees on the boxes.
Verizon is swarming my town as we speak, and I talked to a tech- it's FiOS, and it should be ready to order by the end of 2008. I might switch, but Cablevision's service has been good for me. If they're willing to compete (even if I have to call retentions), I might stay. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| High Definition
Set Top Box
Up to $9.99/month Choose from our large selection of high definition programming. Over 20 eye-popping channels
Enjoy hit movies, sports and your favorite shows with more clarity than ever
Programming options including the Interactive Programming Guide (IPG), Video On Demand (VOD) and access to commercial-free CD-quality music
thats what their website states about hd box. Their price list is here.
»www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv···ices.htm
So Unless they arent marketing their stuff you have to pay more for a hd box. |
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JDCMAN
join:2006-02-23
Somers, NY | reply to devoa11
They either changed it, or I'm just totally wrong. Thanks for pointing that out.
Hopefully we'll get some good promos though, and I've heard of people getting some pretty good retention offers from both companies... |
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eival
join:2008-07-09
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last i checked Fios charges double for the same download speeds that cablevison offers in their Boost pricing(60 bucks, ill let you do the math)
doesnt seem like a reason to dig up my yard for it...maybe if they didnt delete their 50/50 package like i seen when they first started this service i would still be interested, but payig 120+ for the same speed that i have now isnt appealing to me.
and other than when theres actuall issues with repairs like ive had over the last 2 days, i get 30/5 all day an night, an my HD signal is perfect, ive been watchin sports mainly over the past year an i dont see any image imperfections other than when its a 720p feed an i have it zoomed to fill my tv, then ill see some minor pixels around the score box and station logo.
an as for VoIP, i have my xbox 360 hooked up an talk over XBL all the time, i never have any breakups unless im DL torrents.
Fios is basically like Blu Ray or 1080p, at first everyone was all hyped about it cause of the suposed specs an performance, then shortly after it unvailed people found it wasnt that big of a deal an went back to what they've been using(standard DVDs and 720/1080i resolutions) google BluRay to see how "great" its doing. |
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mertallix
join:2008-09-30 | reply to devoa11
To every one that has no clue, Your TV makes you HDTV look good not the service, Ive seen Fios and Io next to each other on the same channels, No difference, get a good tv that's the ticket also they all have breakup. |
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