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I have footage on a mini dv tape that I've downloaded to Adobe Premiere and edited. I would also like to mail the raw footage to a friend who will then edit it as well. I'm not sure what kind of video editing software they have. What is the best way to send the raw footage for them to use not knowing their program? Is a mpeg file as good as the actual mini dv tape? Are there other options? Thx |
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  AB Premium join:2006-04-04 Leesburg, VA | An mpeg file is probably preferable. Most conversion software can handle those, not many can handle the raw footage format of a mini-DV. |
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1 edit | @AB: I don't know what software you are dealing with. In either case, it must be REAL lousy if it can't handle DV.
Fact of the matter is, it's best to leave it in it's original DV format not only for editing purposes (there's technical limitations comparing mpeg2 and DV for editability. Google it.) but for compression reasons as well.
If your friend also has a minidv camera and firewire available, would probably be your best bet to mail them the tape or a copy of the tape and let them edit it that way. Or you could possibly also burn the dv files straight to a dvd (NO conversion to dvd video) depending on the amount and size of your footage.
Fact of the matter is, the DV formatted video on a mini-DV tape is a form of mjpeg which encodes each individual frame of video in full, making it that much easier for your editing software to go in and snip at any point and make edits.
mpeg2 on the other hand, like many other common compression formats now, uses intraframe encoding where only frames called 'intraframes', which can be scattered in the video anywhere from seconds to minutes apart, are encoded in full. Everything in between those intraframes has to be guessed by the decoder based on all the previous frames back to the last intraframe. This obviously makes it difficult in your video editing app and depending on the quality of the decoder, sometimes you never get the same picture twice for the same frame.
In addition, a program like Adobe Premiere lives in DV editing space already. If you feed it DV formatted video, it'll edit it directly, no questions. But if you feed it anything else, it's gonna waste time and space as it converts that footage back into DV anyhow. Check with your friend and see if he/she doesn't already use this. -- I swear, some people should have pace-makers installed to free up the resources. Breathing and heart beat taxes their whole system, all of their brain cells wasted on life support.-two bit brains, and the second bit is wasted on parity! ~head_spaz |
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| said by Vchat20 :@AB: I don't know what software you are dealing with. In either case, it must be REAL lousy if it can't handle DV. Maybe it is-- but the various freeware programs I'm familiar with can all handle mpegs, and I don't recall too many with a DV option. But perhaps they do have it and I'm just not aware of it.
That software is VirtualDub, AVI-Demux, MPEG Clip/Convert, and SUPER, btw.
The O.P. said he was unaware of what editing or conversion software the file receiver might have. I'm suggesting whatever it might be, it can likely handle the mpeg format. If it can likely handle DV as well, then fine. |
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| The big thing is that all those apps you list are real generic single-track video editors limited in use. Programs like Adobe Premiere like the OP is referring to are proper multi-track linear video 'compositing' applications with with abilities such as filtering, transitions, and whatnot. Most, if not all, of these programs default to the DV editing workspace and is the most easiest format to work with in those programs without adding extra unneeded steps. -- I swear, some people should have pace-makers installed to free up the resources. Breathing and heart beat taxes their whole system, all of their brain cells wasted on life support.-two bit brains, and the second bit is wasted on parity! ~head_spaz |
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| said by Vchat20 :The big thing is that all those apps you list are real generic single-track video editors limited in use. Programs like Adobe Premiere like the OP is referring to are proper multi-track linear video 'compositing' applications with with abilities such as filtering, transitions, and whatnot. Most, if not all, of these programs default to the DV editing workspace and is the most easiest format to work with in those programs without adding extra unneeded steps. Thanks for the info.
To quote the O.P.:
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1 edit | said by Vchat20 :In addition, a program like Adobe Premiere lives in DV editing space already. If you feed it DV formatted video, it'll edit it directly, no questions. But if you feed it anything else, it's gonna waste time and space as it converts that footage back into DV anyhow. Check with your friend and see if he/she doesn't already use this. Either case, if his friend is doing editing of the video much the same as him, it's going to be using some sort of linear compositing app like Premiere which most all work in DV like I mentioned earlier. About the only case where this would not be true is with Windows Movie Maker, but that's it's own short-bus-special case. -- I swear, some people should have pace-makers installed to free up the resources. Breathing and heart beat taxes their whole system, all of their brain cells wasted on life support.-two bit brains, and the second bit is wasted on parity! ~head_spaz |
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