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broccoli

join:2007-11-29
Portland, OR

Look who's talking

And just how open is Skype's own network?


funchords
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said by broccoli:

And just how open is Skype's own network?
Skype doesn't have a network, it has a networking application. That's a big difference.

Skype is also not complaining that it is being singled-out here, but that innovation across the board is hurt when carriers limit what can be attached to the network.

Related link: Carterphone (Wikipedia)
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broccoli

join:2007-11-29
Portland, OR

said by funchords:

said by broccoli:

And just how open is Skype's own network?
Skype doesn't have a network, it has a networking application. That's a big difference.
Deep down it's just another P2P network, much like ED2K. There's a central server that tracks the clients, and clients connect to the server to find out which peers they can connect to.

How many third-party clients are there for Skype? Where can I get the API to write my own client?


swhitney2003
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join:2003-06-13
NH

said by broccoli:

said by funchords:

said by broccoli:

And just how open is Skype's own network?
Skype doesn't have a network, it has a networking application. That's a big difference.
Deep down it's just another P2P network, much like ED2K. There's a central server that tracks the clients, and clients connect to the server to find out which peers they can connect to.

How many third-party clients are there for Skype? Where can I get the API to write my own client?
Last I knew skype was a VoIP service


jmn1207
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join:2000-07-19
Ashburn, VA

reply to broccoli
Skype has tons of various 3rd party plugins with millions of downloads. Use of their API can be found in the EULA.

»www.skype.com/legal/eula/

Nobody is claiming to want to rewrite their own wireless network here, they just want to be able to use their own ideas over the existing networks in a fair manner.

Skype adheres to this fundamental belief as can be seen in 3rd party applications used on their protocol.

»about.skype.com/2007/04/skype_ex···ads.html


rpstom
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Cumming, GA

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reply to swhitney2003
Thats what they want you to think but guess what...All those calls are going over someone elses computer connection using p2p.
I have a t1 and had to stop using them after I noticed that skype was crippling my network. Anytime I had it running it would max out my connection.
Their whole model is based on using YOUR bandwidth and computer not thiers.
I have never used vonage but they have their own technology that does not work in this manner. If I was to ever use voip again it would be them.



funchords
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I'd love to hear an explanation on how Skype managed to max out a 1.5 Mbps (T1) connection. Something else had to be going on.

Yes, it's P2P. Yes, your node can help firewalled connections connect. I've never caught it using more than 10 KB/s when idle.


rpstom
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I wish I could give you the explanation but I am no expert so i won't pretend to be. What I do know is that if skype is running and I check the traffic graph of my router (only me online with no other programs running) it is maxed. As soon as I close skype there is no traffic. This has been replicated many times on different computers.



funchords
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I'm open minded, but I just don't understand why that would be. Is there any chance that traffic graph is dynamic?


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