NormanS
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Re: The Comcast Newsgroups Service Discontinued
As did AT&T, which removed the entire 'alt.binaries.*' hierarchy from their NNTP servers.
Oddly, Cuomo brags that he "forced" AOL to "toe the line", as well; yet AOL had already discontinued NNTP service a couple of years before he forced them to. Does he have a supply of 'thiotimoline' stashed somewhere?
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said by espaeth  :Pricing isn't set on a per address basis; it's based on the service area your address would reside in. As long as there is competition within your service area (which there almost always is), there are at least 2 services to compete on price. That's still pretty far from a market, but your point is valid. It's also true the $42.95 is worth less now than it was 4 years ago -- so the price has dropped somewhat. ObTopic -- both Comcast and Verizon caved in to Cuomo, Verizon a bit differently -- »News: Verizon KILLING their News Server!!!
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said by funchords :This "artificial"-ness runs both ways when there are only 0, 1, or 2 choices for any particular address. It takes a market to create market forces. Pricing isn't set on a per address basis; it's based on the service area your address would reside in. As long as there is competition within your service area (which there almost always is), there are at least 2 services to compete on price. |
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said by NormanS :So your local franchise agency artificially forced Comcast to offer the service at a lower price than they offered it elsewhere. Government controlled prices are not "normal", and prices rising to the market level, when the government relinquishes controls, does not a "price hike" make. This "artificial"-ness runs both ways when there are only 0, 1, or 2 choices for any particular address. It takes a market to create market forces.
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NormanS
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So your local franchise agency artificially forced Comcast to offer the service at a lower price than they offered it elsewhere. Then Comcast was able to convince them that it was unfair to force them to offer service "at cost"; probably offered to take their toys to other markets, and leave them with dead coax on the poles. So the franchise agency chose to allow Comcast to charge you what they already charged everybody else.
Government controlled prices are not "normal", and prices rising to the market level, when the government relinquishes controls, does not a "price hike" make.
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quetwo
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I won't post a copy of my bill (it's been a year and a half since the increase).
Our municipality had the rate capped at 37.99 until 6/07. After that time, it went up $5 to the new rate of 42.95. No explaniation other than a renew of the municipality agreement. |
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NormanS
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Are you a former Insight customer? Comcast hasn't raised their Internet rate since they posted a door hanger, 3 1/2 years ago, trying to get our custom (we're still with AT&T DSL). Nearly as I can tell, customers who've been with Comcast for as long as they have offered Internet have not seen price hikes.
OTOH, former ATTBI, Insight, Adelphia, and Road Runner customers, acquired by Comcast over the years, have often grumbled about "price hikes".
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lilhurricane
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I've seen no increases in prices here in 6 years (other than features I've added myself) |
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Cabal
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said by quetwo :said by Rob :So when Comcast went from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2, did your Internet rate go up? After all, nothing is free. So all of our rates must have gone up with the increase in speed. Yes. About the same time my cap was lifted from 6/384 to 6/1, there was a price increase of about $5. While most people didn't have the timing as close as we did, we had our yearly "we need more money"-a-thon the same time they did the slight bump in upload speeds. Can post a scan of your bill where bundled (std-level) Internet is more than $42.95? Mine hasn't changed since 2002.
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said by quetwo :said by Rob :So when Comcast went from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2, did your Internet rate go up? After all, nothing is free. So all of our rates must have gone up with the increase in speed. Yes. About the same time my cap was lifted from 6/384 to 6/1, there was a price increase of about $5. While most people didn't have the timing as close as we did, we had our yearly "we need more money"-a-thon the same time they did the slight bump in upload speeds. Your Internet rate went up by $5 dollars? |
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quetwo
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said by Rob :So when Comcast went from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2, did your Internet rate go up? After all, nothing is free. So all of our rates must have gone up with the increase in speed. Yes. About the same time my cap was lifted from 6/384 to 6/1, there was a price increase of about $5. While most people didn't have the timing as close as we did, we had our yearly "we need more money"-a-thon the same time they did the slight bump in upload speeds. |
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Rob
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said by Welcome to Post :said by CableTool :said by beerbum :so will Comcast be reducing our bills since the equivalent service from Giganews is $7.99 per month? Did your rate increase $7.99 when newsgroup access was added to accounts? I've been a Comcast HSI subscriber for eight years, and newsgroups have been a part of the package Comcast has marketed that whole time. Also when did Comcast raise CHSI prices? I'm not sure how that's relevant, since we're talking about reduction in services without a commiserate reduction in price. Now you have to pay $8.00 a month for service you were previously getting for free. Chances are you will not and many will not. Correction: nothing is free from a for-profit company. Newsgroups have been part of the internet package that Comcast markets. We are now facing a reduction in that package. So when Comcast went from 6/384 to 6/1 and 8/768 to 8/2, did your Internet rate go up? After all, nothing is free. So all of our rates must have gone up with the increase in speed.
I didn't see anyone say "OMG! My Internet just got faster, how dare they increase it without increasing my rate. I am now receiving an addition to my package with the same rate!" |
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