ViperNY
Premium
join:2002-09-14
Islip, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
1 edit | reply to jaa
Re: [iO] FIOS & Cable box use coax, so are they both just as fas
I switched from CV to Fios and the biggest differences that I notice are that the HD channels are not compressed and don't break up. The internet is always 20/5, day/night/weekends, never slows down. Last, the phone is cyrstal clear. I had OV for 2 years and always had issues, breaking up, call would not go through, or I could not get through from my cell phone.
Everyone has a different take, and its not for everyone. News12 is important to some, cable ready (no box) to others. However, if your looking for features, bells and whistles then Fios may be the right choice for you.
Vipz |
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Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
| said by ViperNY  :HD channels are not compressed and don't break up. HD channels are always compressed in some way. They may not be as compressed as CV, but they are still compressed.
Break-ups on CV would be due to signal level, not the compression. That is fixable.
Regardless, you pick what works best for you. FiOS is coming to my area soon, so I'll probably try out the best internet package I can get for 65 bucks and see how it works. I'll probably end up keeping OOL because of boost. I'll never leave my DirecTiVos though. |
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ViperNY
Premium
join:2002-09-14
Islip, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| Td.
In a perfect world like a lab you may have a case. But it is well documented both here and on the Yahoo board that SD and HD digital channels are over compressed and break up all the time. I complained for years, then got fed up calling and got the opportunity to switch and did.
Like I said, everyone has a different take and need. For the money, Fios wins by miles, free VOD with any premium channel you subscribe too (CV = $4.95 each), superior GUI and instant Guide response. Multi-room DVR and with latest software it has too many features to list. Internet, port 21 is wide open and there is no triggers or blocks no matter how many MB's or GB's you download. Pound for Pound, your paying the same money, you just get so much more with Verizon except News12. |
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Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY | I was merely pointing out your misconception that HD is uncompressed on FiOS. It's still compressed, just not by Verizon. Not even talking about CV here.. It's just unfair to say HD on Verizon is uncompressed when it definitely is not. |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| said by Thinkdiff :I was merely pointing out your misconception that HD is uncompressed on FiOS. It's still compressed, just not by Verizon. Not even talking about CV here.. It's just unfair to say HD on Verizon is uncompressed when it definitely is not. There is a big difference... Verizon passes the HD as they receive it onto the customer... Cablevision USED to do that, but on some channels, they are compressing them too much. I was amazed at the SD picture quality on Verizon as well... not only was Verizon passing the HD signal to customers as they receive it... they appear to be passing the SD signal the same way... and they have more SD channels, without the use of Switched Video... so if you ask me, it's clear that Fiber is much, much more robust. Cablevision needs to upgrade so they have more space... getting rid of analog will help, but the fact remains they are using SDV, which is horrible. And that suggests that they aren't going to be upgrading, but instead squeezing whatever they can into the space they currently have. |
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Thinkdiff
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-07
Bronx, NY
| That's nice and all.. but completely ignoring my point. I never said Verizon's PQ isn't higher than CV's. I have no idea if it is, as I don't have either service.
The person I was replying to stated FiOS is uncompressed video. It is not. End of story. Doesn't matter how much better than CV it is, that's not even the point. It's still compressed. |
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Jmartz
join:2000-07-20
Tenafly, NJ
| said by Thinkdiff :That's nice and all.. but completely ignoring my point. I never said Verizon's PQ isn't higher than CV's. I have no idea if it is, as I don't have either service. The person I was replying to stated FiOS is uncompressed video. It is not. End of story. Doesn't matter how much better than CV it is, that's not even the point. It's still compressed. But that point is all semantics... digital video is always compressed somehow... even in the facility it originates from, it's compressed... |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| reply to Jmartz
You do realise that verizons video is setup pretty much the same way right?
The thing is that nobody complained when verizon got rid of their analog but you guys complain when cablevision wants to do it.
verizon uses the same 850mhz type system . When cablevision gets rid of all their analog and upgrades to docsis 3 we should see better pic quality. |
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JDCMAN
join:2006-02-23
Somers, NY
 ·Optimum Online
| If I remember, Verizon also charges no fee for the first 3 HD boxes. With cablevision, you'd be paying about $20 in rental fees per month for that equipment. You might not pay an HD channel fee, but you do pay rental fees on the boxes.
Verizon is swarming my town as we speak, and I talked to a tech- it's FiOS, and it should be ready to order by the end of 2008. I might switch, but Cablevision's service has been good for me. If they're willing to compete (even if I have to call retentions), I might stay. |
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majortom1029
join:2006-10-19
Lindenhurst, NY
| High Definition
Set Top Box
Up to $9.99/month Choose from our large selection of high definition programming. Over 20 eye-popping channels
Enjoy hit movies, sports and your favorite shows with more clarity than ever
Programming options including the Interactive Programming Guide (IPG), Video On Demand (VOD) and access to commercial-free CD-quality music
thats what their website states about hd box. Their price list is here.
»www22.verizon.com/content/fiostv···ices.htm
So Unless they arent marketing their stuff you have to pay more for a hd box. |
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