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OZO
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join:2003-01-17

reply to OZO
Re: "Official" email migration thread

As I've said earlier - I never used my internal account mail address in "From" field of my mails. I used my personal domain name and account instead.

Now, I'm testing my new settings using recommended 'smtp.gmail.com:995'. What I see that even if I still use the same mail client (Outlook) and use exactly the same settings (except new POP and SMTP servers) I can't get rid of my DLSE mail address (account name) in "From" field of test messages. Perhaps it comes from "Logon Information | User Name:" field, and not from "User Information | E-mail Address:" as it always being before.

How to correct it and use my own domain account (in "From" filed of header) with the new setting?
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Zak_D_H
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-04
Salt Lake City, UT
·Qwest.net

OZO,

From what I can tell there is not a way to "Spoof" the from E-mail when sending from a mail client. I had this come up once already and I couldn't find a work-around but I am looking into it.

You can try specifying a different "reply to" address in Web-mail but I am not sure if that even works.
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Zak

Tech Support

DSLExtreme

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17

Zak_D_H See Profile - thank you for replying.

It is extremely important for me to keep my personal domain name in "From" header field ("Spoof", as you've said). That's why I got a low flow of SPAM in my DSLE prime account until recent events... I did it for many years and I need to keep it that way.

Please find out how to make it.

P.S. I'm not using webmail at all. I'm running POP client - Outlook.
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Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...


cowboy
So Much For Subtlety
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Morgan Hill, CA
·Covad Communications
·DSL EXTREME

reply to Zak_D_H
It is actually fairly easy to add an alternate From: (assuming of course, that you actually own the alternate email address):

1) Select Settings (in upper right hand side, by your email)
2) Select Account (2nd tab)
3) Select Add another email address

This pulls up a spot where you can enter the new email address - a test mail will be sent to that account with a verification code you must enter to validate the address.

Once validated, you can either set it as the default, or select on a compose-by-compose basis (or both)

What little testing I did seemed like things were working
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Richard Nelson


cowboy
So Much For Subtlety
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Morgan Hill, CA
·Covad Communications
·DSL EXTREME

Well, it does work - for most things

* changes the From: header (desired id)
* adds a sender: header (dslextreme id)
* does not change the envelope from header (dslextreme id)

the 1st is what was wanted,
the 2nd pretty much follows RFC, but may confuse poor clients
the 3rd will properly direct bounces, but may also confuse
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Richard Nelson

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17

reply to Zak_D_H
Zak_D_H See Profile - do you have any progress in how to configure Outlook POP client to send messages from my domain?

Please let me know. It's extremely important for my mail service.

Thanks
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Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...


Zak_D_H
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-04
Salt Lake City, UT
OZO,

have you tried the way that Cowboy suggested?

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17

It's for WebMail and it requires adding yet another email address there.

As I've mentioned many times - I do not use WebMail at all, I only use plain POP3/SMTP client (Outlook, in particular).

Is there any instructions how to configure POP/SMTP client?
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Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17

Ok, I've just testes WebMail's way. I've added additional email address, made it 'default' and tested my Outlook client.

1) Test message received has the new email address that I've just added in WebMail and not one that I've specified in my Outllok client. That's not what I need. I owe my domain and I need to be able to send messages from it.

2) Test message header contains multiple references to my account mail in DLSE (my actual account address is replaced with 'myacc' here):

Return-Path: <myacc@dslextreme.com>
Delivered-To: myacc@dslextreme.com
smtp.mail=myacc@dslextreme.com
Sender: "myacc @dslextreme.com"
X-CTASD-Sender: myacc@dslextreme.com
Return-Path: myacc@dslextreme.com

It's completely unacceptable...
And it's completely different from what we had here before this "exciting news"...

Zak_D_H See Profile - please provide me with instructions how to use Outlook to send messages from my domain without this WebMail hack, which as you see is not working at all (just a smoke in eyes).

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Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...


wb457

join:2000-02-07
Los Angeles, CA

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Just curious. Since the migration NOD32 used to add a footer to received mail that it has scanned. Now there's nothing. Is mail now somehow bypassing NOD32's scanning?


Zak_D_H
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-04
Salt Lake City, UT
wb457,

Do you know if NOD32 is compatible with SSL? If it does not support SSL it will no longer scan your E-mail.


Zak_D_H
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-04
Salt Lake City, UT
·Qwest.net

reply to OZO
OZO,

There is no way to send through smtp.gmail.com without the from saying your @dslextreme.com E-mail address. If you want it to show as being from your Domain you have to have us unblock port 25 and then send using your own domains outgoing mail-server.


jadinolf
I love you Fred
Premium
join:2005-07-09
Ojai, CA
·DSL EXTREME

reply to Zak_D_H
said by Zak_D_H See Profile :

wb457,

Do you know if NOD32 is compatible with SSL? If it does not support SSL it will no longer scan your E-mail.
Same with avast! and probably most antivirus programs.
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Zak_D_H
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-04
Salt Lake City, UT
It would appear NOD32 does not support SSL:

»www.betterantivirus.com/nod32-an···582.html


cowboy
So Much For Subtlety
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Morgan Hill, CA
·Covad Communications
·DSL EXTREME

reply to jadinolf
Same with avast! and probably most antivirus programs.
Indeed - and while a PITA, it is a good thing - or Man-In-The-Middle attacks would be trivial
--
Richard Nelson

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17


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reply to Zak_D_H
said by Zak_D_H See Profile :

OZO,

There is no way to send through smtp.gmail.com without the from saying your @dslextreme.com E-mail address. If you want it to show as being from your Domain you have to have us unblock port 25 and then send using your own domains outgoing mail-server.
That's a complete show-stopper for me.

I can't use the new DSLE (gmail-based) mail service at all... May I call it an "exciting news"?

Can I return back to my old Outlook settings and use smtp.dslextreme.com again?
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Keep it simple, it'll become complex by itself...


cowboy
So Much For Subtlety
Premium
join:2000-03-14
Morgan Hill, CA
·Covad Communications
·DSL EXTREME

reply to Zak_D_H
said by Zak_D_H See Profile :

OZO,

There is no way to send through smtp.gmail.com without the from saying your @dslextreme.com E-mail address. If you want it to show as being from your Domain you have to have us unblock port 25 and then send using your own domains outgoing mail-server.
Ah, right, I tested from webmail - not client MUAs, I can't do any testing from work (25 outbound blocked), so I'll take your word on this - It makes sense that smtp.dslextreme.com would have no knowledge of webmail settings.

I can assist with a local MTA on most Unix distros - and ssmtp/email under windows if the OP needs help
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Richard Nelson


Zak_D_H
Premium,VIP
join:2007-01-04
Salt Lake City, UT
·Qwest.net

reply to OZO
said by OZO See Profile :

said by Zak_D_H See Profile :

OZO,

There is no way to send through smtp.gmail.com without the from saying your @dslextreme.com E-mail address. If you want it to show as being from your Domain you have to have us unblock port 25 and then send using your own domains outgoing mail-server.
That's a complete show-stopper for me.

I can't use the new DSLE (gmail-based) mail service at all... May I call it an "exciting news"?

Can I return back to my old Outlook settings and use smtp.dslextreme.com again?
Why don't you just send using your Private domains outgoing mailserver on port 25?


sded
Premium
join:2002-11-04
San Diego, CA
·DSL EXTREME

reply to jadinolf
Visit thr avast! forum for fairly straightforward instructions on how to set up avast! to scan encrypted email. Uses the external program Stunnel, along with the free openSSL library. I have been scanning the usual ssl dslextreme and gmail this way with avast! for several years. Since you can't scan the email directly after it is encrypted by the server, you first decrypt it via Stunnel then scan it with avast! external to your client. Or for outgoing, scan it first and then encrypt it. Technique works with some other scanners also, built into a few. Works for both incoming and outgoing secure email.

OZO
Premium
join:2003-01-17
reply to Zak_D_H
Simply because I assume that DSLE provided smtp/pop server is more reliable than one that I may run in my home environment.
If my DSL line is down (and it happens time to time) - your server is still running and collecting my important mails.
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