Photography a fad in Digital Imaging http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21127360 en Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:34:30 EDT Tue, 15 Dec 2009 02:34:30 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21147219 Wayne GphFX :
said by gugarci See Profile :

You might find that some of these missing members might be spending more time in the other forums. Wayne had recommended Nikonians to me a while ago, and I love The Nikon Cafe. But I still visit here frequently. But I post a lot more at the other forums.
Yes that is true in my case too :)
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anyways I had 2 other shooters with DSLR's one had a Nikon D300 but had no external flash :-/ and the other had a Canon model not very high end..

funny my shutter sound the same as the D300 most of the time he would shoot right after me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145943 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:51:52 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145922 Kiwi : Sue

I think several great posts have answered to this interesting thread topic, I for one have been forced to work my tail off lately, boss just quit; I need a decent lens, though I still peruse the photo forums. Kids take a lot of time. I made the mistake of thinking as they got older I would have less to worry about, that just so NOT.

Updating other equipment, boating/Summer takes a toll on time, bet that all changes come winter for many people.

Now if the price of the lens I want cost less than 200% of the camera, I might be willing to spring into action. Digital is here to stay, though 35mm certainly has it's never ending niche.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145922 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 15:47:00 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145279 SueS :
said by alg See Profile :

I got hassled by law enforcement (real cops, not rent-a-cops) several times over a short period for being "suspicious" while out with my camera. It turned me off from the hobby for a while. :(
I live in a small town where this would never happen. I find it sad that it happens anywhere.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21145279 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 13:09:53 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144223 alg : I got hassled by law enforcement (real cops, not rent-a-cops) several times over a short period for being "suspicious" while out with my camera. It turned me off from the hobby for a while. :(
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said by Jason Levine See Profile :

I don't own a Sony camera. It's just the Panasonic and my wife's Canon A570IS.
Whoops, yeah, Canon, lol.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21137668 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:16:41 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21136084 Pentaxian : Well, I managed to upset the apple cart.. Oops.. lol

However, after reading that convenient link to a post made by justin regarding his intentions with your photos or media - I can only say that what Justin wrote is irrelevant because, you agreed to the written terms when signing up and those written terms (official TOS) is in stark contrast to what Justin wrote. And, FYI, those written terms that you agreed to when you created an account here are all that matters.

So while it's nice to see that 5 years ago justin said he wouldn't do anything with your images, it means absolutely nothing and the site actually operates under the written ToS that everyone here agreed to.

Not that I want start a riot but, you can all test this site's ToS vs Justin's words simply by asking to have ALL of your images that you posted in various threads removed. And I don't mean the ones that you can go back and remove yourself, I'm talking about the threads that have aged and you are no longer allowed to edit. FYI - thread aging is controlled by the site, they COULD remove thread aging all together and allow you to go back to every thread you ever posted and remove whatever content you like, BUT, as I said, they follow their ToS and prevent you from being able to do so.

I'm not looking for a fight here, not at all - I'm just offering valuable information to photographers and using this site as an example - an accurate and true example I might add.. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21136084 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:37:09 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21135777 gugarci : For me photography is not a fad. I've been using SLR'S/DSLR's since about 1975. I used to own an Olympus OMT, that was stolen and later on a Canon A-1. I love the feel and looks of these older bodies.:)

But about 10 years I lost interest. My interest and passion for photography was awaken by my first digital camera, which I still have. It was a P&S Fuji 550. And from there I went and bought my first DSLR.

What do I love about digital photography, there's no need to print your pictures in order to decide which are your keepers, and the ability to edit my shots to my liking.

So for me photography is not a fad, but one of my many hobbies.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21135777 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:41:37 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21135536 Jason Levine : I don't own a Sony camera. It's just the Panasonic and my wife's Canon A570IS.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21135536 Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:47:10 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21134709 HFB1217 :
said by Jodokast96 See Profile :

I'n not defending it, nor am I criticising it. The point was touched upon, so I clarified it. Nothing more.
No problem with your posting just saying that the rule was made before we even thought about having a DI forum.
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Also, don't forget their new line of micro 4/3 sensor cameras. These may be exactly what you are talking about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21134270 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:43:42 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21134265 EGeezer : My personal feelings on photography haven't changed. If people lose interest give it up, maybe I'll fall into some good used equipment.

See »Re: Sometimes I think to myself, "Why even shoot?"

Thanks, all, for reminding me why I like to photograph :)
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I'm seeing the same trend with DLSRs that has already happened to the high-def home theater market. A few years ago, the average home owner couldn't afford a 67" DLP display. You had to go to a specialty store to get "expert" advice to be trained on how to use your system. High-def home theater was a specialty for the high-income class elite user. With the advancement of technology, e.g. LCD panels, you can get anything you want at Best Buy, Circuit City, or Amazon.com. No special training required. Now, Jane Consumer is very happy and gets great high-def theater on the cheap.

The only problem is that she wasn't educated on how to setup the TV correctly, so the picture isn't great. She's still happy, it's better than what it was. The problem is that most people would stop at that. However, Jane Consumer might want to understand how to make things a little better and she starts asking in the forums. She has no interest in the details and if it's too much work, she might not go any farther. She thought that buying a good TV might give a better picture. That's true to a certain extent, but you need training / experience to really get into true high-def "reference" quality.

Switch subject to CCD sensor technology and you now have the same problem for digital photography. SLR photography was for either professionals or high-income hobbyists. Jane Consumer now has a cellphone camera. She is happy that she can take a picture and it looks just fine. If she wants something better, she gets a P&S. Maybe go one better and buy a DSLR. She has a good camera and doesn't understand the skills needed to be a good photographer and may lose interest after a time because she thought that buying a good camera would make good pictures. Again, you need training / experience to get serious about photography.

Hence my question about defining a "fad". I think it's great that all this equipment has made it possible to get people interested in the hobby / profession. However, you have to have the interest first. The "fad" is just how long it takes for people to realize that they didn't really have a serious interest in the first place. The equipment certainly has helped a lot of people with the interest to stay interested and go further.

Like Kringle, I've been in this "fad" for over 4 decades (I started really young..). Always had it. Always will. It's the equipment that changes, not the interest. I started out with Tri-X for my everyday shots (occasional pushing to 800) and Pan-X when I wanted the "good" stuff. Now, my darkroom is on my PC.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21134015 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:46:22 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21133919 tmpchaos :
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Unfortunately, no.

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said by SueS See Profile :

Most of the photos in the gallery are too small to do anything with, or at least mine are. What can you do with resolution of 900-720?
First, it doesn't pertain to just the Gallery. It would apply to anything posted anywhere here. Like those full sized images posted for help correcting. Second, lot's of people have had smaller resolution images stolen and used commercially (and had little recourse in getting a fair resolution).]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21133666 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:32:58 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21133203 SueS :
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Unfortunately, no.

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Most of the photos in the gallery are too small to do anything with, or at least mine are. What can you do with resolution of 900-720?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21133203 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 19:09:42 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21132580 Jodokast96 : I'n not defending it, nor am I criticising it. The point was touched upon, so I clarified it. Nothing more.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21132580 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:18:30 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21132507 SueS : Of course photography is not going to go away. I mentioned that it might be a fad for some people.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21132507 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 17:06:07 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21132504 HFB1217 :
said by Jodokast96 See Profile :

Unfortunately, no.

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That has been the policy of this site from day one and well before the digital forum. At the time we only had about six to ten forums and probably less on day one when BBReports first started.
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said by SueS See Profile :

Not sure what this means in the future for those left still shooting. Prices of new stuff may be more expensive in the future. Second hand stuff could go dirt cheap including lenses at some point.

Please share your thoughts on this subject.
When all we see is our little piece of the world...things can look dim.
Have any idea how many forums there are?
A quick glance at Flikr tells a different tale.
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New cams are getting cheaper and better features. If the world population remained stagnant...I'd agree with a couple of points, however...creative people are being born every second. They will grow up and want a cool camera.
What could be perceived as a contraction could actually be an exhale preparing for a big expansion...explosion. I'm about to drop some money on the Canon XSi....but I still explore film....even the old box cameras...
To say photography is a fad is fairly shortsighted and not looking at the whole world. I believe there has been growth since it became affordable....back in the old B&W film days....
Computers were said to be a fad, Cars were said to be a fad....
Flagpole sitting was a fad...break-dancing was a fad, Rubik’s Cube was a fad...
Photography? Not a fad. Been here since the 1800s....gonna be here LONG after we're all dead.
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Kristi
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said by Jodokast96 See Profile :

But I knew that going in, and knew that I was the one that had to make it work. Have I succeeded? Not by a long shot, but I've gotten better. And if I don't improve one bit more than what I'm capable of now, I'm happy with that. I still have fun.
This is why I got the camera I did. to have fun with and not be limited and I believe the reason a lot of other people pick up dSLRs. We can have fun and take as many or as little amount of shots we want and dont have to worry about if a shot was good or printable or professional. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131612 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:42:43 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131448 Jodokast96 :
said by kewlkeed See Profile :

I've said it before, it's not the camera that's important, it's the person behind it that makes the difference. If you don't have the creativity and style to do it properly, you can have the most expensive piece of equipment out there, and it's only still scrap glass in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it to its full potential.
Your right. My sister learned that the hard way years ago when she bought a film Rebel. As for myself, yes I own a rather expensive camera, certainly one that's way beyond my abilities. But I knew that going in, and knew that I was the one that had to make it work. Have I succeeded? Not by a long shot, but I've gotten better. And if I don't improve one bit more than what I'm capable of now, I'm happy with that. I still have fun.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131448 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:09:55 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131428 Kringle :
said by Jodokast96 See Profile :

Unfortunately, no.
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Interpret it as you wish.
I believe that we all read the terms of use when we started posting pics to our Galleries (or we should have). Much of that is necessary for doing so much as making the thumbnail images that we see above the DIChat thread listings.

Notice that I've edited my post to better reflect what I was talking about - that what brought us together is what's driving us apart. One does not have to post pictures to their Gallery to be a valued, contributing member of this forum. That is what I hope is so very wrong in Pentaxian's post.

Cheers! :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131428 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:06:09 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131420 Jodokast96 : Fair enough, and probably the actual intent. But "ours to use...as we like" could mean they could sell the rights to it. It's certainly ambiguous however you look at it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131420 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:04:10 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131396 kewlkeed : I think Pentaxian hit it right on the head.

I certainly think it's a fad and everyone tried to jump on the bandwagon with the new cheaper DSLRs. Only now are they realizing that they don't have the enthusiasm for the hobby as they once thought they did, they are also realizing to get breathtaking pics there is some work involved.

I've said it before, it's not the camera that's important, it's the person behind it that makes the difference. If you don't have the creativity and style to do it properly, you can have the most expensive piece of equipment out there, and it's only still scrap glass in the hands of someone who doesn't know how to use it to its full potential.

Myself I got a Rebel XT because it's all I can afford. But man do I put it to use. If it was possible to wear out a camera, I'm gonna do it to this one. I got it in May and I know I'm well over 20K shots with it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131396 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:59:46 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131392 Jodokast96 : You mean kinda like this? »www2.panasonic.com/consumer-elec···00005702

Other than sensor size and a smidgen of other features, they pretty much are DSLR's with non-removable lenses.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131392 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:57:52 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131379 ccallana :
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Unfortunately, no.

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I read this as a "Royalty-free, non-exclusive" license. They don't *own* the images, but they can do whatever they want with them, including make money off of them....
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said by Pentaxian See Profile :

Absolutely a fad. No doubt about it.

The prices for DSLR's came down as well as qualities had increased thus creating a false want/need for a new camera.

Then along with the new camera came the need for information about it and an influx of users swarmed to the photo forums.

And along with this surge of new folks with new cameras came along a massive, and I mean MASSIVE influx of horrible photography. Message board upon message board was overwhelmed with crappy photos.

And lately, it seems that the fad is waining and we're seeing more photographers, not guys/gals with cameras, actual photographers, spending more time on the boards chatting business - NOT posting images (more on that later)

Other things that have added to the decline on message boards. Many of these 'new camera users' have done quite well for themselves and have actually become talented photographers and now they want to showcase their work. It's usually at about this point the individual realizes that the message boards he's been posting all of his wonderful artwork at actually claims ownership over the works. Essentially forcing the up-and-comer to give up copyright simply by posting the image to the message board. (it's a dirty little secret hidden in many TOS agreements - everyone should read every boards TOS that they post images to)

All of this has added up to photographers building their own websites to showcase their work instead of on forums, because, as I stated previously, very few forums are straight forward and honest about their intentions with the media you post to their forums. So there you have it, places like this here forum which is the catalyst for bringing photographers together is what drives them apart ultimately.
Right on the money ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21131237 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 13:23:42 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130957 ddevilduck : Fad?

For me I never had any pretense on why I wanted a dSLR. I wanted a camera that I could use to take the pictures I wanted to take. It was not to think I could become the next great award winning photographer or try to make money. It was simply I wanted a camera that gave me the flexibility to do anything I wanted, even if I dont normally use half the features. A point and shoot would have been a lot cheaper but didnt give me the options. Shortly after buying the camera I posted a few topics here so I could learn how to take better shots. The advice given has been very helpful. the critique I recieved of the shots posted made me aware of the little things that make a good shot better.

I have taken over 3000 shots with my camera since I purchased it at the end of june. 100 of those shots i used in a photobook. 7 are printed out at 11 x14 and hung on my walls. Not because they are really really great shots but because I liked them and wanted to look at them. the rest are on storage media that may never get looked at again. (havent gotten as far as deciding what to delete)

Summer is over, with that comes a lot busier time. I havent taken as many shots but I still make a point to walk around and take 5 to 10 shots a day just to play with the camera and try new things. Is it a fad to me? Maybe, but I like to think that I will keep the camera around for a long time and use it to capture those moments that mean something to me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130957 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:24:07 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130940 Kringle :
said by Pentaxian See Profile :

So there you have it, places like this here forum which is the catalyst for bringing photographers together is what drives them apart ultimately.
I surely hope that you're very, very wrong.

EDIT: Shortened quote to show better what I was really talking about.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130940 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:19:31 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130879 Subaru : Car and car parts are draining me..

I still shoot events I have (which I hope) is my last wedding of the year This Saturday.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130879 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:07:37 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130428 Pentaxian : Absolutely a fad. No doubt about it.

The prices for DSLR's came down as well as qualities had increased thus creating a false want/need for a new camera.

Then along with the new camera came the need for information about it and an influx of users swarmed to the photo forums.

And along with this surge of new folks with new cameras came along a massive, and I mean MASSIVE influx of horrible photography. Message board upon message board was overwhelmed with crappy photos.

And lately, it seems that the fad is waining and we're seeing more photographers, not guys/gals with cameras, actual photographers, spending more time on the boards chatting business - NOT posting images (more on that later)

Other things that have added to the decline on message boards. Many of these 'new camera users' have done quite well for themselves and have actually become talented photographers and now they want to showcase their work. It's usually at about this point the individual realizes that the message boards he's been posting all of his wonderful artwork at actually claims ownership over the works. Essentially forcing the up-and-comer to give up copyright simply by posting the image to the message board. (it's a dirty little secret hidden in many TOS agreements - everyone should read every boards TOS that they post images to)

All of this has added up to photographers building their own websites to showcase their work instead of on forums, because, as I stated previously, very few forums are straight forward and honest about their intentions with the media you post to their forums. So there you have it, places like this here forum which is the catalyst for bringing photographers together is what drives them apart ultimately.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21130428 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:43:44 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129837 gugarci : You might find that some of these missing members might be spending more time in the other forums. Wayne had recommended Nikonians to me a while ago, and I love The Nikon Cafe. But I still visit here frequently. But I post a lot more at the other forums. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129837 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:23:20 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129743 richdelb : Between work and family, I also find myself not having much time for taking pictures. I still do find the time to come by here every day to see what's new.

I have found that web forums do tend to "ebb and flow" from time to time. The DI forum will be loaded with new pictures and subjects for a while, and then it will calm down for a while. I'm sure it will pick back up soon.

I'll take this as a reminder that life is short, and we all should make more of an effort to take time to do the things we ENJOY to do (as well as the things we Have/need to do)

Good topic, Sue.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129743 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:36:56 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21129655 Charliebrown : I think it also has to do with peoples life styles. me for example would post images in the gallery quite often, however due to work commitments i have not had a chance to get out and spend some time with the gear. saying that though doesnt mean i dont still visit the forum daily to catch up on what is going on and checking out other peoples work. as well as reading the topics posted.

With a bit of luck i will be posting again soon.
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said by SueS See Profile :

I think some people are loosing interest in digital photography and forums.
Are you basing this on the levels of activity you see here and elsewhere online?

If so, I think you make a mistake to conclude there's a waning interest in photography. The most you can say is that there's just less activity in digital photography forums.

We can speculate as to the reasons why this might be happening:
- some people (like me) have had less time for hobbies lately
- other people (not like me :) ) have gotten tired of this forum for whatever reason
- some might be in jail
- a few might be sick
- others might be offline due to Ike
- some, as you say, must have lost interest in photography
- etc

In terms of interest in digital photography, that's best measured in other ways... maybe camera sales volumes? maybe camera lab printing stats? maybe flickr (etc) photo upload numbers?

When it comes to equipment, who knows... good stuff has never been exactly cheap. Cheaper maybe. We're still seeing new features, capabilities, etc being added. HD video, for eg. Personal economics, product availability, etc... these are usually deciding factors... and I think this will continue.
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Harder times means more work and less pleasure time along with greater worries than snapping pics and forums. I have seen a great slow down in many forums both here and at other sites.
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....megapixels]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21128197 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:40:51 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21128183 SueS :
said by TigerNutz See Profile :

I think the MP race will level off soon, reach a plateau where enough is enough.

I mean who really needs images from a 24 or 32mp camera? Not the average John Q Citizen. I suspect other features will emerge to fuel the market like wireless, HD video and GPS.

We are seeing that now.
I think I could be happy with 21 MPs. :D]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21128183 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 21:38:28 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127792 GlobalMind : Like anything else, some people are in it for the long haul and some aren't.

I agree there are many factors which might have some people reconsidering purchaes & such but once you have the gear it's more of a matter of time and other commitments to get out & shoot.

And really it depends on what you do. For me, most of what I do is racing. If I am not going to a race I am not shooting nearly as much. The other thing is simply time. I've been on the road for work and with other commitments that took me away from it for a few months, with the occasional shot taken here & there.

Perhaps if I was more into shooting other subjects I'd get the kit out more, and perhaps that's something I should work on in the off season.

Photography as a whole of course isn't going anywhere, but it's possible revenues from equipment might drop off a bit.

There's no question the technology is advancing at a rapid pace. What all of the manufacturers hope is that they put out a product which attracts the consumer to buy. But with financial demands in other areas, it'll be a tough road for a little while.

In my case, I'd love to get a 50D or 5D MkII but I can better spend the money elsewhere at the moment, and the 20D is still going strong. There's really no need for me to upgrade, just perhaps a desire. :) I do perhaps one major purchase a year on my gear, this year was a 580EX II flash for example, and last year was the 100-400 lens.

Other than that, I probably do more accessories that I use to support my photography, and those are mainly much lower price than the camera gear itself.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127792 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:31:40 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127641 TigerNutz : I think the MP race will level off soon, reach a plateau where enough is enough.

I mean who really needs images from a 24 or 32mp camera? Not the average John Q Citizen. I suspect other features will emerge to fuel the market like wireless, HD video and GPS.

We are seeing that now.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127641 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:09:57 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127591 Kringle : A small P&S is probably best for snapshots anyway. The current image quality is beyond what the average consumer can recognize and they're simple to operate. Remember that VHS won out over the technically superior Beta VCR format - the average consumer could only see the price difference and was completely oblivious to the quality difference. For many, photography IS a fad. For me, it's a fad that has lasted over 4 decades!

I wouldn't object strongly to some dirt cheap second hand equipment, though. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127591 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 20:03:43 EDT Re: Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127481 haiyaku : It's probably just due to economics.
1) Lower wages means less money to spend on hobbies such as photography.
2) Less money to be made in photography maybe? MOST people have cellphones/cameras, and with that they can snap their "memories" even if it means lack of quality.
I got into the fad, so it's still going on. Maybe not as strong.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127481 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:46:12 EDT Photography a fad http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127360 SueS : I think some people are loosing interest in digital photography and forums. For some it will have just been a fad. The fad has been good for photography as a whole, with companies putting out new and improved equipment, with lower prices. Many will continue to shoot family snapshots and vacation photos. I doubt some of these folks, excluding professionals, will be updating equipment as often, except for entry-level SLR type cameras replacing point and shoots. Point and shoot cameras may once again be the cameras of choice for family snapshots. Not sure what this means in the future for those left still shooting. Prices of new stuff may be more expensive in the future. Second hand stuff could go dirt cheap including lenses at some point.

Please share your thoughts on this subject.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21127360 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:25:11 EDT