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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus

join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI

reply to baineschile

Re: 130 HD channels FRAUD

I don't see why that will happen. If they offer solid TV, then they will be fine. They don't need to offer 130HD channels at the same time. Only about 4 channels need to be available simultaneously.

The triple play is meaningless. Comcast tries to sell me on that every time I call for something. Their sale price is $33, Vonage regular price is $15. Comcast has no intention on being competitive.
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dnoyeB
"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard. " Ecclesiastes 9:16


Matt
All noise, no signal.
Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12

said by dnoyeB:

The triple play is meaningless. Comcast tries to sell me on that every time I call for something. Their sale price is $33, Vonage regular price is $15. Comcast has no intention on being competitive.
They aren't trying to compete with an inferior product. The cable VoIP (digital phone) offering is a much more mature, stable, product than Vonage. They are trying to compete with POTS.
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rsa0

join:2003-01-25
Birmingham, AL

Whatever you are smoking, it ain't working..."compete with an inferior product" - and how is Comcast or any other cable phone provider superior? when the cable is down, they are down too !!! Customer service ? ha ! enlighten me please !



Matt
All noise, no signal.
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Jamestown, NC
kudos:12

said by rsa0:

Whatever you are smoking, it ain't working..."compete with an inferior product" - and how is Comcast or any other cable phone provider superior? when the cable is down, they are down too !!! Customer service ? ha ! enlighten me please !
Instead of asking me to do your research for you, how about you put the lazy pipe down and go read the technical docs on why the MSOs digital phone product is superior to VoIP ... especially the part that requires them to register as a CLEC to meet certain regulations ... and then the part about the difference in the VoIP packets traveling over a private QoS controlled network vs. the public internet.

That should get you started.
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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Around these parts, SUPERIOR means CHEAPER.. I don't think I will ever conform to that standard of thinking. (Now before the opportunistics jump on this, more expensive doesn't mean better either)

He also forgets when your DSL or Cable Modem goes down, so does your vonage. I mean, the arguments around here area generally always held on the surface and never get deep enough to matter. There is much more to "technology" and "excellence" than just things like price and "I hate comcast" (or insert name of cable company here)


hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH

reply to Matt
MSOs do not have to register in Ohio as a CLEC.



Matt
All noise, no signal.
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said by hottboiinnc:

MSOs do not have to register in Ohio as a CLEC.
»www.puco.ohio.gov/apps/Regulated···m?IID=58

If they want to offer phone service, yes they do. They have to meet the same requirements as a CLEC as an ILEC does.

See the following:

»codes.ohio.gov/oac/4901%3A1-3
»codes.ohio.gov/oac/4901%3A1-5
»codes.ohio.gov/oac/4901%3A1-6
»codes.ohio.gov/oac/4901%3A1-7
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SillyRabbit

@tds.net

reply to dnoyeB
Many of the channels are fluff and yet they still have more HD than any other provider. The picture quality is better than most companies except for maybe Verizon FiosTV. They're all liars. However, DirecTV provides a satisfying TV viewing experience. If they want to do tripple play, maybe they should partner with Clearwire?



jt1

@comcast.net

reply to dnoyeB
comcast digital voice is not the same as vonage . try calling regular 911 with vonage. does vonage still work in a power outage. comcast digital voice does. i hate when stupid people only look at price. you have to take a look at what you get and how it works too stupid people.



jt1

@comcast.net

reply to SillyRabbit
not sure if clearwire would do it considering comcast has put over a billion into the company. i think they would try to make it so that does not happen.



Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12

reply to SillyRabbit

said by SillyRabbit :

Many of the channels are fluff and yet they still have more HD than any other provider. The picture quality is better than most companies except for maybe Verizon FiosTV. They're all liars. However, DirecTV provides a satisfying TV viewing experience. If they want to do tripple play, maybe they should partner with Clearwire?
I had the opposite experience. So much so that I paid their ridiculous ETF to go back to cable. And I saved money and got an HD DVR.
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asdfghjklzx5
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join:2004-05-03
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Just because your DirecTV experience was bad doesn't mean their business will fail.
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Matt
All noise, no signal.
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join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12

said by asdfghjklzx5:

Just because your DirecTV experience was bad doesn't mean their business will fail.
If you read what I wrote, I never said that. I was offering a contrasting opinion.
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jtorre69

join:2005-12-26
Hollywood, FL

reply to jt1
Comcast Qos is better than vonage, but they need to work on price. AT&T just put out $30.00/month digital voice, and that could easily give comcast a run for their money.



asdfghjklzx5
Premium
join:2004-05-03
kudos:1

reply to Matt
Yeah sorry about that. The cable service in my town is so horrendous that I have trouble with the concept of cable competing with satellite.

Love that Linux Haters Blog BTW.
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hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
Reviews:
·WOW Internet and..
·Time Warner Cable

reply to Matt
NO they don't. Ohio calls them a VoIP provider. They do not have to follow CLEC laws.

Cause if they did TWC Ohio would provide battery backup which they DO NOT. Also CLECs are required by Law in Ohio to have the Lifeline program which TWC does NOT have.

Cable Information LLC is their holdings company. If you did not know that. Many large companies do have LLCs where they put all of their assets. This is because if they are sued nobody can touch those assets.

Also do you believe everything you read?


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