said by imrf :

... This is getting kinda aggravating.

said by dew2432 :

There are still fiber lines coming into that node that can be fully saturated before all users on that node can get their speed.

So yes, He shouldn't have used the word "node". Maybe "their trunks are overloaded" would be a better suited phrase?

As for him pointing out the TOS. I took it as a reminder to the people that think their internet has no loopholes. A lot of people never even glance at the TOS.

said by antidelldude :

Read through the W.O.W internet TOS and look for this part: "Customer shall not utilize excessive "bandwidth" (i.e. volume of data transmitted or received) arising out of the Service at any time and on an on-going basis. WOW! shall have the sole and unreviewable right to determine whether Customer’s use violates this standard." They decide what excessive is and they decide how to deal with you. I'm moving to Tampa... (fios joke) But, I can deal with a little packet loss on Comcast where I am. It beats the hell out of what I think W.O.W is pulling.

said by antidelldude :

Looks like a lot of people are getting inaccurate results when they run speed tests which seems to confirm what I posted a little earlier. Way before you even saturate the link I have found that wow starts sending packets at different times and out of order after a short amount of time. It's like dropping your modems packets to low priority when you try to go faster as to not affect your neighbor checking his e-mail or cruising the web. On a speed test this translates to you sending the packet, w.o.w low prioritizing the crap out of it, some packets may get there in 50ms and others may get there in 500ms, which then makes them come out of order, delaying the test further and giving you inaccurate results. You'll never get those speeds reliably on a cable network unless they have the appropriate amount of fiber running to the node (Which, unless you're in the boonies on w.o.w, your node will be overloaded), have proper peer capacity, and have efficient routing over those peers. When any of those aspects are oversold, That will make them employ the traffic shaping techniques experienced here because it's a hell of a lot cheaper to bs speeds than actually produce them reliably. Read through the W.O.W internet TOS and look for this part: "Customer shall not utilize excessive "bandwidth" (i.e. volume of data transmitted or received) arising out of the Service at any time and on an on-going basis. WOW! shall have the sole and unreviewable right to determine whether Customer’s use violates this standard." They decide what excessive is and they decide how to deal with you. I'm moving to Tampa... (fios joke) But, I can deal with a little packet loss on Comcast where I am. It beats the hell out of what I think W.O.W is pulling.

You'll never get those speeds reliably on a cable network unless they have the appropriate amount of fiber running to the node (Which, unless you're in the boonies on w.o.w, your node will be overloaded),

said by antidelldude :

Looks like a lot of people are getting inaccurate results when they run speed tests which seems to confirm what I posted a little earlier. Way before you even saturate the link I have found that wow starts sending packets at different times and out of order after a short amount of time. It's like dropping your modems packets to low priority when you try to go faster as to not affect your neighbor checking his e-mail or cruising the web. On a speed test this translates to you sending the packet, w.o.w low prioritizing the crap out of it, some packets may get there in 50ms and others may get there in 500ms, which then makes them come out of order, delaying the test further and giving you inaccurate results. You'll never get those speeds reliably on a cable network unless they have the appropriate amount of fiber running to the node (Which, unless you're in the boonies on w.o.w, your node will be overloaded), have proper peer capacity, and have efficient routing over those peers. When any of those aspects are oversold, That will make them employ the traffic shaping techniques experienced here because it's a hell of a lot cheaper to bs speeds than actually produce them reliably. Read through the W.O.W internet TOS and look for this part: "Customer shall not utilize excessive "bandwidth" (i.e. volume of data transmitted or received) arising out of the Service at any time and on an on-going basis. WOW! shall have the sole and unreviewable right to determine whether Customer’s use violates this standard." They decide what excessive is and they decide how to deal with you. I'm moving to Tampa... (fios joke) But, I can deal with a little packet loss on Comcast where I am. It beats the hell out of what I think W.O.W is pulling.

said by imrf :

I disagree 100%. With my old Ultra+ tier I hit 6.4Mbps/1.1Mbps all day and night, it never varied. I get the new tier and downloads are all over the map. From 6Mbps to a peak of 14Mbps. One day I couldn't even break 7Mbps. And yes, I did line up download from sites that I know are more than capable of saturating my download and the speeds were all over the place.

said by Xee :

tests will never be 100% accurate.

said by Goober :

I guess I don't understand why you're a moron.

People are experiencing fluctuating speeds. They sound like legitmate complaints to me. Hardly whining when you see the crazy variations in tested speeds.

said by The Joker :

Maybe you should all get a ARRIS modem.

said by DJ Matt :

I like the new speeds and I only have 8/1. I think people that have 15/1 or 15/2 are the ones seeing the speeds go up and down. I can download at 1 meg exactly or right around there if downloading from a good server. Its pretty sweet.

said by usa2k :

Is that like the Comcast thing where the speed jump as needed? :uhh:

My speeds are still 2Mb slower on download after upgrade :(
I'll try a file download!

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said by imrf :

While that may be true, WOW has said that their speed test is used to verify your speeds.

said by Goober :

I disagree. My throughput via Usenet was much more consistent and accurate than the speedtest.

said by grantsa4 :

Am not getting the speeds

said by FileShackOrg :

does anyone have faith wow will be fixing this soon?

said by anonytard :

so, are you getting these fluctuations on BT or newsgroups?

said by FileShackOrg :

Sucks I expected wow to be giving users a constant speed with a little overhead like in the past guess not. I'm running the old white modem I'm thinking the black one may be better.

said by imrf :

Then you must not have used the internet that long. There are many ways to max out a connection.

i'm not sure what you could "accurately" test with...

said by imrf :

Speeds are fluctuating like crazy since the upgrade. Looks like they need to do some more load balancing.

said by insideslant :

Without getting real specific on DS and US speeds or the, can a few people respond with the general feeling on the new speeds.

Any issues to speak of?