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Just Basics

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Proxy used in Palin hack?

"September 18, 2008 (Computerworld) The webmaster of a proxy service called Ctunnel.com, which may have been used by a hacker to illegally access the e-mail account of Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, is working with law enforcement authorities to track down the person behind the break-in."

Link to quote above:

»www.computerworld.com/action/art···=9115099

"September 19, 2008 (Computerworld) A Tennessee state legislator has confirmed that his son, a 20-year-old student at the University of Tennessee-Knoxville, is the person being named on blogs and message boards in connection with the hacking of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's e-mail account, a Nashville paper reported late yesterday."

Link to quote above:

»www.computerworld.com/action/art···=9115158

From Tennessean.com:

"State Rep. Mike Kernell confirmed Thursday that his son, a University of Tennessee-Knoxville student, is at the center of heated Internet discussion into the hacking of the personal e-mail of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin."

Link to article:

»www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll···6/NEWS01

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Not really sure the point of this post, as the Palin "hacking" is old news and was already discussed at length (and subsequently locked).

But, I will say this: the "hacker" was extremely amateurish at best. His didn't seem to realize that his use of this public proxy is worthless and offers little protection when the logs can be viewed by the owner. He should have bounced from an international daisy chain of rooted boxes. Or, better yet, proxied through a chain of rooted boxes via a local compromised WAP. At the very least, he could have used TOR, which would make tracking him much more difficult (if at all).

And, he is no "hacker." Hacker = someone who can write code.

Epic fail for him.


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Not really sure the point of this post, as the Palin "hacking" is old news and was already discussed at length
I agree that it is relevant to the security aspect of so-called "anonymizer" proxies, and a reality check for those who consider proxies as a means to hide them from discovery.
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Identity of Sarah Palin Hacker Revealed

I've removed this post because the information was the same as presented here »www.computerworld.com/action/art···=9115158 and here »www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll···6/NEWS01 , both posted by Just Basics.

Sorry. Thanks for the above interesting links, JB.

Just Basics

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Re: Proxy used in Palin hack?

"Earlier it was just some prank to me, I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be, just like all of you anon out there that you think there was some missed opportunity of glory, well there WAS NOTHING, I read everything, every little blackberry confirmation… all the pictures, and there was nothing, and it finally set in, THIS internet was serious business, yes I was behind a proxy, only one, if this shit ever got to the FBI I was fucked, I panicked, i still wanted the stuff out there but I didn’t know how to rapidshit all that stuff, so I posted the pass on /b/, and then promptly deleted everything, and unplugged my internet and just sat there in a comatose state

Then the white knight fucker came along, and did it in for everyone, I trusted /b/ with that email password, I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things."

More here:

»blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/0···-ha.html

cant have nice things


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said by KodiacZiller See Profile :

Not really sure the point of this post, as the Palin "hacking" is old news and was already discussed at length
I agree that it is relevant to the security aspect of so-called "anonymizer" proxies, and a reality check for those who consider proxies as a means to hide them from discovery.
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"I had gotten done what I could do well, then passed the torch , all to be let down by the douchebaggery, good job /b/, this is why we cant have nice things."
I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by douchebaggery, starving hysterical naked, dragging themselves through the douchebag streets at dawn looking for an angry douchebag.
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Little or No Jail Time Likely for Palin Hacker

From Wired
September 19, 2008 -
quote:
It might seem obvious to most people that the hacker who gained unauthorized access to the private e-mail account of Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin violated the Stored Communications Act.

Under that law, a violation is committed by anyone who “(1) intentionally accesses without authorization a facility through which an electronic communication service is provided;” or “(2) intentionally exceeds an authorization to access that facility; and thereby obtains...[an] electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system.”

But Kurt Opsahl, senior staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, says not so fast.

Although the law seems clear on such a matter, the Department of Justice has taken a position on the law that could thwart its own prosecution of the hack under the SCA.

Before anyone jumps to conclusions, the hacker could still be prosecuted under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

Mark Rasch, a former Justice Department computer crime prosecutor, agrees with Opsahl.

"While the DOJ guidelines are not binding on the DOJ, they certainly have persuasive authority," he said. "In this case I think the DOJ would be bound by its own interpretation of the statute and probably could not prosecute (the hacker under that statute) simply because of its own interpretation of the statute."

As mentioned above, the hacker could still be prosecuted under the CFAA, though likely for a misdemeanor, not a felony, since there was no actual loss that resulted from the hack. More specifically, he'd be prosecuted under 18 U.S.C. 1030(a)(2)(C), accessing a protected computer without authorization to obtain information.

Rasch says if the hacker were charged with a misdemeanor, he would likely face a sentence of zero to six months, depending on his history, attitude and contrition. If the hacker were to come forward and apologize to Palin and tell the FBI exactly what he did, prosecutors might take this into consideration.

"If the government treats this for what it really is, which was a kid who was curious to see if he could do this . . . then the kid should be in reasonably good shape" and face "little, if any, jail time," Rasch said.
Click top link to read full article.

Edit: Added more information.

Just Basics

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It seems to me that one of the screen shots was of the inbox with all of email subjects and senders displayed.

The image that I saw was poor and I didn't look any farther for a better image but if there was one posted that was clear it is possible that the other addresses could be harvested from the screen shot.

If I was one of the senders I would certainly consider this a violation of my privacy and a loss.

"If the government treats this for what it really is, which was a kid who was curious to see if he could do this . . . then the kid should be in reasonably good shape" and face "little, if any, jail time," Rasch said.

Said by rubico 09/17/08(Wed)12:58:04 No.85782727:

"..I really wanted to get something incriminating which I was sure there would be.."

If rubico was the one to post the screen shots his intentions were very clear.


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said by Just Basics See Profile :

It seems to me that one of the screen shots was of the inbox with all of email subjects and senders displayed.
There was also a text file that was copy-pasted by one of the anons who logged onto the account.

edit:
Here's a link for those interested in what exactly was leaked. »wikileaks.org/wiki/VP_contender_···n_hacked


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I trusted /b/ with that email password
Trust /b/tards? You couldn't trust them with anything.
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