Noah Vail
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Re: OK EFF
said by insomniac84  :said by Noah Vail :I can't find anything in Obama's past that would indicate that he might give up power. I can't think of any change he's put forth that wouldn't take an increase of government power to have it come to pass. I guess you don't have access to google. one link provided for your laziness So you consider a reference to instituting a New AG Investigation on the White House a reduction in government power?
Perhaps in BO's world and yours it is.
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insomniac84
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said by Noah Vail :I can't find anything in Obama's past that would indicate that he might give up power. I can't think of any change he's put forth that wouldn't take an increase of government power to have it come to pass. I guess you don't have access to google. one link provided for your laziness |
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Noah Vail
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said by insomniac84 :Obama might give up the power. McCain will expand it. Take your pick. I can't find anything in Obama's past that would indicate that he might give up power. I can't think of any change he's put forth that wouldn't take an increase of government power to have it come to pass.
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insomniac84
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Schererville, IN | reply to Blackened
Obama might give up the power. McCain will expand it. Take your pick. |
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Blackened
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said by insomniac84 :It's not entirely a slap in the face as long as he advocates returning to a system of warrants. A lot of damage could have been done if every American was allowed to sue AT&T. When you look at the list the eff is suing, "President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Cheney's chief of staff David Addington, former Attorney General and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and other individuals", it's not that big of a leap to imagine AT&T being able to legally claim they were forced into it somehow. They could have been threaten with actions against them in other areas or with documents that by law cannot be publicly acknowledged. So in conclusion, Obama is our best chance at returning to a system of warrants. And McCain would try to ensure less actions required warrants. So take your pick. That doesn't explain why AT&T also paid for the DNC.
This is entirely contradictory to what you're saying, and this is by his actions, so there's no reason to believe he'd save people's rights in this case. None whatsoever. Entirely to the opposite at that. Especially when the NSA is part of the executive branch and, being President, you really think he's going to give up that power?
Nope, it rests entirely on the courts to uphold the Constitution since neither Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin will.
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insomniac84
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It's not entirely a slap in the face as long as he advocates returning to a system of warrants. A lot of damage could have been done if every American was allowed to sue AT&T. When you look at the list the eff is suing, "President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Cheney's chief of staff David Addington, former Attorney General and White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales and other individuals", it's not that big of a leap to imagine AT&T being able to legally claim they were forced into it somehow. They could have been threaten with actions against them in other areas or with documents that by law cannot be publicly acknowledged.
So in conclusion, Obama is our best chance at returning to a system of warrants. And McCain would try to ensure less actions required warrants. So take your pick. |
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