 | another certainty? subscription loss to Verizon in NYC! as sure as you can say $99 triple play, you can say cancel my account and switch. |
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 | said by tmc8080:subscription loss to Verizon in NYC! as sure as you can say $99 triple play, you can say cancel my account and switch. And when Verizon starts using caps too? Where will you move to then? -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk? |
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 EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Verizon's not using caps, and hasn't said anything about them (though if asked I'm sure they would say that they wouldn't rule them out)
If one accepts the postulate that caps are inferior to unlimited service, and ignoring all other elements, then a provider that may possibly cap but hasn't said anything definitive is still better than a provider that has outright said it will cap. |
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 iansltx join:2007-02-19 Golden, CO kudos:2 | reply to tmc8080 Heh, my idea of triple play:
$63 - internet $1.50 - MagicJack $34.50 - Netflix + iTunes budget
Still $99 but my internet is faster and I'm not limited to my house as far as where I can watch my TV. |
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 en102Canadian, eh? join:2001-01-26 Valencia, CA | reply to fAcEtIOUs Indie DSL... aka DSL-Extreme -- Canada = Hollywood North |
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| said by en102:Indie DSL... aka DSL-Extreme If enough high bandwidth users flock to DSL they'll be forced to implement caps as well. Their costs go up as bandwidth utilization increases. |
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 | What i dont understand is, if more customers go to them that also means more money!!!!!!!!!!! WHY OH WHY can't they use that money to get a better network an maintain those customers without restrains??? It is all about greed, more customers more money, but once they see the customers are not happy because they are not providing what they promise, instead of fixing the problem(more bandwidth) they choose the easy part, caps. Oh well.
If it gets to that point to dial-up i will go. They can keep their HSI for all i care. |
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1 edit | said by RaulF : If it gets to that point to dial-up i will go. They can keep their HSI for all i care. If you download so much data that you're concerned about metered internet billing, I call BS. You are NOT going back to dialup.
What i dont understand is, if more customers go to them that also means more money!!!!!!!!!!! Today's low broadband pricing relies on "overbooking" capacity with the assumption that people are not using it around the clock. Indie ISPs like DSLExtreme must offer similar pricing to the telco to gain a decent customer base. If DSLExtreme gets flooded with all of Time Warner and AT&T's heavy usage customers, they will have unusually high traffic and bandwidth expenses. They will be forced to institute similar caps, or upgrade their network and raise prices. -- AT&T U-Hearse Your funeral. Delivered.
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 | The main reason for my HSI is low ping for playing online game via PC. So yes, i will give up online gaming. And about downloading data i do watch shows online in the FOX NBC and Hulu. But i also have my DVR, which would make that obsolete.  |
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| reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs:said by tmc8080:subscription loss to Verizon in NYC! as sure as you can say $99 triple play, you can say cancel my account and switch. And when Verizon starts using caps too? Where will you move to then? I seriously doubt verizon will cap a service that isnt even being utilized fully. Plus on top of it, they own one of the largest NSP backbones in the world. Bandwidth to them is non-existant. |
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 EPS join:2008-02-13 Hingham, MA | Don't be so sure. at&t's fiber network has substantial capacity, but at&t has talked about introducing a capped system. In their case it's probably more about greed than legitimate "our network is DOOOMED" issues. |
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| reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs:said by tmc8080:subscription loss to Verizon in NYC! as sure as you can say $99 triple play, you can say cancel my account and switch. And when Verizon starts using caps too? Where will you move to then? you imagine a world in which consumer protections (though few they may be after the last 8 years) do not exist. municipal or 3rd party providers would flourish in that environment. just because cable and telco own 98% of the market today does not guarantee that in the future. we decide where we spend our money. it's our money before we decide to give it to them. on the one hand they're free to change the terms of providing service as they see fit. we have the choice to buy or not to buy, and consumers have the bully pulpit of encouraging a boycott of services where companies go out of their way to be greedy and screw the consumer. don't think it works? take a look at sprint! they have a big problem with subscriptions. take a look at plain old telephone service, there are many examples in which the consumer's choice is king, and the companies who fight against the grain do it at their own peril!
a day will come when the oil companies will have their comeuppance as well.. but not for long, long time (unfortunately)-- as the republican party has a stranglehold on that steady stream of oil money and they won't give it up without some pruning of that influence (people party and institutions). fuel does not have to be a revenue stream that props up the economy. if alternatives such as hydrogen were given a chance to flourish, there would be little need for billions of barrels of oil to be imported from the middle east. however, if you were guaranteed a monopoly market and control/manipulation of the progress of technology would you want to give that up?
oil=$98 a barrel price at the pump per gallon $3.51-$4.59 9/20/2008 |
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