dleehend
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join:2002-03-11
Jasper, TX
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Re: But wait...
said by BF69  :You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING. Actually I have a portable wireless communication device in my hand, but there is no way you could know that. In fact I bought my current device because it could communicate via more than just voice. I can do video, text, or audio and guess what, I subscribe to a wireless plan from my provider that allows me to use any of those methods without worrying if I will have a huge bill at the end of the month.
Of course, that meant I had to THINK before I acted on a plan purchase. Anyone caught by surprise with these huge wireless bills simply did not pay attention to what they were buying. It is not the carrier's fault if someone does not purchase a plan that will fit their needs. The carriers do their best to sell you more than you need. 
As far as cost for bandwidth, I can't send 160 bytes for less than a penny. I don't personally have any cell towers, transmission lines, data switches, etc., so I have to use someone else's equipment to send my data. Guess what, they want to get their investment back & make a profit. Do I like the price? Not really, but since I want to send the data, I have to pay the price.
Oh, and thanks for your opinion, but I think I can decide how many text messages are 'too much' for the situation in my family.
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calvoiper
join:2003-03-31
Belvedere Tiburon, CA
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Agreed on the economics, but....
Telcos have a long history of charging for things that actually cost less. They charged for "touch-tone" when it was actually cheaper to provide than rotary dial, both in the cost of the phones that they rented (yuck!--anybody else remember those days?) and the cost of switching.
It's like my gas station charging a surcharge for using a debit card at the pump instead of paying cash indoors--it actually saves them money, but they can, and do, charge extra for it anyway.
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Markie
join:2003-07-26
Kalispell, MT
| reply to DJ_Kismuth
Mine is the best I've seen.
No charges, ever, to receive text messages.
$5/month to send 500
$10/month to send unlimited
Some plans - including mine - include unlimited texting.
My plan totals $56/month with taxes + fees for unlimited voice, text, and web. I have a Nokia e62 S60 smartphone. It's NICE.
The company? MTPCS Cellular One (there's more than one Cellular One) - www.cellonenation.com |
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Sean
join:2004-01-23
Ottawa
·Bell Sympatico
2 edits | reply to BF69
said by BF69 :said by dleehend :They are not free but.... We have unlimited family text & multimedia messaging with AT&T for $30 per month. All together we send about 4000-5000 messages per month, most of that by our daughters in high school & college. That works out to less than a penny per message. Just 200 messages would put me below .20 per message. yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING. Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE. So not only are you arguing that text messages cost too much in a day and age when they should not, you are arguing that the user is sending TOO many text messages in todays day and age, and that it is absurd.
I have an unlimited text option on my plan, and I personally send 450 - 500 texts a month.
You've got to realize that the BIG MOFO COSTS that everyone is talking about is PER SMS. It is for people who are NOT on a text plan, which believe it or not if NOT THAT MANY PEOPLE. Most people who WOULD be affected by high SMS costs are already ON plans that negate these costs. If you are sending 50 texts a month without a plan, it ain't your providers fault.
Not to mention, who the hell cares if you get a confirmation? North of of the border here in Canada, such a thing is unheard of. I've never, ever, received a confirmation. Most (if not all) of my messages simply get through. And if they don't, they get que'd, and then sent at a time when the user is capable of receiving it. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to Jonbo298
Re: But wait...
said by Jonbo298 :yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.
Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE.
Hey grandpa, the 70's called, they want their rotary phone back. Cell phones are more then just phones now with how tech is advancing. Alot of people don't grasp the concept of texting, but its more convenient and less annoying for a good amount. I'm not a heavy user of it but I do text a fair amount, its just more convenient to type something up, send it off, and resume what I was doing. Um how is texting more convienent that SPEAKING? I'm 100% sure I can say whatever it is what you are texting faster than you can text it.
WTF are you talking about getting charged twice? He said he had an UNLIMITED PLAN. Unlimited means it doesn't matter how many texts you send. List Einstien, 1¢ worth of data = 670,000 txt messages assuming you use all 160 bytes. Considering most unlimited plans are at minimum $20 a month that's 1.3 BILLION txt messages. Please try and tell me this guy and his family is sending 1.3 BILLION txt messages a month. He says he sends 5000 a month. That should cost at most 1/100 of a cent.
Try doing math. Bandwidth cost less than 10 cents per GB that's GIGAbyte. Txt messages are at most 160 BYTES. So it take at least 6.7 MILLION txt messages to = 1 GB of data. |
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supergirl
join:2007-03-20
Pensacola, FL
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Hey, VZ, if your network didn't suck with that pedophile following everyone around, they wouldn't need a confirmation. LOL
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dslfan
join:2006-02-02
Brooklyn, NY |  reply to Maggs
Re: But wait...
+5 points if I could give that. |
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PwnZone | reply to BF69
rofl! double ownt |
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Jonbo298
join:2004-01-12
Council Bluffs, IA
| reply to BF69
yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.
Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE.
Hey grandpa, the 70's called, they want their rotary phone back. Cell phones are more then just phones now with how tech is advancing. Alot of people don't grasp the concept of texting, but its more convenient and less annoying for a good amount. I'm not a heavy user of it but I do text a fair amount, its just more convenient to type something up, send it off, and resume what I was doing.
WTF are you talking about getting charged twice? He said he had an UNLIMITED PLAN. Unlimited means it doesn't matter how many texts you send. |
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Not only that, but SMS messages and confirmations are not on the data network, so getting rid of confirmations has nothing to do with saving data bandwidth to improve email and browsing throughput. SMS is on the voice signaling channel. Yet more fud spread by the big V. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
4 edits | reply to dleehend
said by dleehend :They are not free but.... We have unlimited family text & multimedia messaging with AT&T for $30 per month. All together we send about 4000-5000 messages per month, most of that by our daughters in high school & college. That works out to less than a penny per message. Just 200 messages would put me below .20 per message. yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.
Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
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| reply to TKJunkMail
Re: But wait...
hahaha... I call BS on this one. I've had a lot of texts that didn't get sent to the recipient or didn't come to me. I've also had texts delayed 7 hours. They can claim all they want, but that is just false. |
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NOZIREV
join:2008-07-10
New Bedford, MA | reply to TKJunkMail
or if you want to keep texting and you have a data plan with your phone just do the text through your email (10digitphonenumber@vtext.com) that works too.
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Jeffrey
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said by TKJunkMail :said by DJ_Kismuth :Everyone here claims "If you don't like the charges, take your business elsewhere, etc, etc." I don't know of any wireless phone companies providing free, unlimited txt messaging. This will only get worse as these companies continually raise SMS prices. Then stop texting. Just send an email with the data plan - no extra charges. Or sign up for a text plan that will cut costs tremendously. Exactly. I think I pay $5/month extra for the lowest packages of texts which is still an amount I'd never go over. I don't even have to worry about it.
And if I'm worried someone didn't get my text - if it was truly that important I'd just call the damn person. No one calls anyone anymore.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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said by Maggs :You can send the message again for only 20 cents! Resend won't be needed.
»forums.crackberry.com/f52/sms-de···st712384
Here is the scoop I read the other day.
VZW has 99.8% delivery of text messages.
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TKJunkMail
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1 edit | reply to DJ_Kismuth
said by DJ_Kismuth :Everyone here claims "If you don't like the charges, take your business elsewhere, etc, etc." I don't know of any wireless phone companies providing free, unlimited txt messaging. This will only get worse as these companies continually raise SMS prices. Then stop texting. Just send an email with the data plan - no extra charges. Or sign up for a text plan that will cut costs tremendously.
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dleehend
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join:2002-03-11
Jasper, TX
·AT&T DSL Service
| reply to DJ_Kismuth
They are not free but....
We have unlimited family text & multimedia messaging with AT&T for $30 per month.
All together we send about 4000-5000 messages per month, most of that by our daughters in high school & college.
That works out to less than a penny per message. Just 200 messages would put me below .20 per message.
Most cell companies have some sort of unlimited messaging plan available for purchase. Anyone sending more than a hundred messages a month or so will come out ahead on one of those plans.
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