Re: But wait... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21142517 en Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:06:50 EDT Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:06:50 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21153851 dleehend :
said by BF69 See Profile :

You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.
Actually I have a portable wireless communication device in my hand, but there is no way you could know that. In fact I bought my current device because it could communicate via more than just voice. I can do video, text, or audio and guess what, I subscribe to a wireless plan from my provider that allows me to use any of those methods without worrying if I will have a huge bill at the end of the month.

Of course, that meant I had to THINK before I acted on a plan purchase. Anyone caught by surprise with these huge wireless bills simply did not pay attention to what they were buying. It is not the carrier's fault if someone does not purchase a plan that will fit their needs. The carriers do their best to sell you more than you need. :-)

As far as cost for bandwidth, I can't send 160 bytes for less than a penny. I don't personally have any cell towers, transmission lines, data switches, etc., so I have to use someone else's equipment to send my data. Guess what, they want to get their investment back & make a profit. Do I like the price? Not really, but since I want to send the data, I have to pay the price.

Oh, and thanks for your opinion, but I think I can decide how many text messages are 'too much' for the situation in my family. :-)
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Telcos have a long history of charging for things that actually cost less. They charged for "touch-tone" when it was actually cheaper to provide than rotary dial, both in the cost of the phones that they rented (yuck!--anybody else remember those days?) and the cost of switching.

It's like my gas station charging a surcharge for using a debit card at the pump instead of paying cash indoors--it actually saves them money, but they can, and do, charge extra for it anyway.

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No charges, ever, to receive text messages.

$5/month to send 500
$10/month to send unlimited

Some plans - including mine - include unlimited texting.

My plan totals $56/month with taxes + fees for unlimited voice, text, and web. I have a Nokia e62 S60 smartphone. It's NICE.

The company? MTPCS Cellular One (there's more than one Cellular One) - www.cellonenation.com]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21146504 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:32:04 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144099 BF69 :
said by Jonbo298 See Profile :

yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.

Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE.
Hey grandpa, the 70's called, they want their rotary phone back. Cell phones are more then just phones now with how tech is advancing. Alot of people don't grasp the concept of texting, but its more convenient and less annoying for a good amount. I'm not a heavy user of it but I do text a fair amount, its just more convenient to type something up, send it off, and resume what I was doing.
Um how is texting more convienent that SPEAKING? I'm 100% sure I can say whatever it is what you are texting faster than you can text it.

WTF are you talking about getting charged twice? He said he had an UNLIMITED PLAN. Unlimited means it doesn't matter how many texts you send.
List Einstien, 1¢ worth of data = 670,000 txt messages assuming you use all 160 bytes. Considering most unlimited plans are at minimum $20 a month that's 1.3 BILLION txt messages. Please try and tell me this guy and his family is sending 1.3 BILLION txt messages a month. He says he sends 5000 a month. That should cost at most 1/100 of a cent.

Try doing math. Bandwidth cost less than 10 cents per GB that's GIGAbyte. Txt messages are at most 160 BYTES. So it take at least 6.7 MILLION txt messages to = 1 GB of data.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21144099 Sun, 21 Sep 2008 01:45:08 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21143500 supergirl : Hey, VZ, if your network didn't suck with that pedophile following everyone around, they wouldn't need a confirmation. LOL
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yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.

Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE.
Hey grandpa, the 70's called, they want their rotary phone back. Cell phones are more then just phones now with how tech is advancing. Alot of people don't grasp the concept of texting, but its more convenient and less annoying for a good amount. I'm not a heavy user of it but I do text a fair amount, its just more convenient to type something up, send it off, and resume what I was doing.

WTF are you talking about getting charged twice? He said he had an UNLIMITED PLAN. Unlimited means it doesn't matter how many texts you send.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142517 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:15:38 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142505 anon : Not only that, but SMS messages and confirmations are not on the data network, so getting rid of confirmations has nothing to do with saving data bandwidth to improve email and browsing throughput. SMS is on the voice signaling channel. Yet more fud spread by the big V.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21142505 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:09:14 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141773 BF69 :
said by dleehend See Profile :

They are not free but....

We have unlimited family text & multimedia messaging with AT&T for $30 per month.

All together we send about 4000-5000 messages per month, most of that by our daughters in high school & college.

That works out to less than a penny per message. Just 200 messages would put me below .20 per message.
yeah penny per txt seems good, but you are still getting ripped off. Besides really who is going to send 4000-5000 txts a month? I think that is retarded. You have the phone in your hands, phones are meant for TALKING.

Oh and don't forget if you send a txt to someone your plan you are getting charged TWICE.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141773 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 13:45:21 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141481 imrf :
said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

Resend won't be needed.
»forums.crackberry.com/f52/sms-de···st712384
Here is the scoop I read the other day.

VZW has 99.8% delivery of text messages.
hahaha... I call BS on this one. I've had a lot of texts that didn't get sent to the recipient or didn't come to me. I've also had texts delayed 7 hours. They can claim all they want, but that is just false.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141481 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 12:16:42 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141423 NOZIREV : or if you want to keep texting and you have a data plan with your phone just do the text through your email (10digitphonenumber@vtext.com) that works too.
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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by DJ_Kismuth See Profile :

Everyone here claims "If you don't like the charges, take your business elsewhere, etc, etc." I don't know of any wireless phone companies providing free, unlimited txt messaging. This will only get worse as these companies continually raise SMS prices.
Then stop texting. Just send an email with the data plan - no extra charges. Or sign up for a text plan that will cut costs tremendously.
Exactly. I think I pay $5/month extra for the lowest packages of texts which is still an amount I'd never go over. I don't even have to worry about it.

And if I'm worried someone didn't get my text - if it was truly that important I'd just call the damn person. No one calls anyone anymore.
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[my ramblings]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141327 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 11:33:24 EDT Re: But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141278 TKJunkMail :
said by Maggs See Profile :

You can send the message again for only 20 cents!
Resend won't be needed.
»forums.crackberry.com/f52/sms-de···st712384
Here is the scoop I read the other day.

VZW has 99.8% delivery of text messages.

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said by DJ_Kismuth See Profile :

Everyone here claims "If you don't like the charges, take your business elsewhere, etc, etc." I don't know of any wireless phone companies providing free, unlimited txt messaging. This will only get worse as these companies continually raise SMS prices.
Then stop texting. Just send an email with the data plan - no extra charges. Or sign up for a text plan that will cut costs tremendously.
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We have unlimited family text & multimedia messaging with AT&T for $30 per month.

All together we send about 4000-5000 messages per month, most of that by our daughters in high school & college.

That works out to less than a penny per message. Just 200 messages would put me below .20 per message.

Most cell companies have some sort of unlimited messaging plan available for purchase. Anyone sending more than a hundred messages a month or so will come out ahead on one of those plans.

Remember TANSTAAFL
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Thanks, Yet Again VZ ... :mad:
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Remember when AOL used to charge 25 cents to send an email? What a joke that was.

Everyone here claims "If you don't like the charges, take your business elsewhere, etc, etc." I don't know of any wireless phone companies providing free, unlimited txt messaging. This will only get worse as these companies continually raise SMS prices.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141125 Sat, 20 Sep 2008 10:29:09 EDT But wait... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21141068 Maggs : You can send the message again for only 20 cents!
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