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flycuban

join:2005-04-25
Homestead, FL

Only in Canada

I wonder how much $$$ the bell's are giving to the top government officials. If this was done here in the US - there would be an uproar. I guess that is what you get when there are only two choices - DSL or Cable.

Makes you think if the cable & bell's aren't in on imposing caps, throttling etc...


mlerner
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said by flycuban See Profile :

I wonder how much $$$ the bell's are giving to the top government officials. If this was done here in the US - there would be an uproar. I guess that is what you get when there are only two choices - DSL or Cable.

Makes you think if the cable & bell's aren't in on imposing caps, throttling etc...
We've known for years that the CRTC is at least partially controlled by Bell (many senior members worked for Bell) and in general they've sided with Bell on telecom issues.

Problem is besides the controlling interest, there is no affordable alternative or even any way of providing competition with DSL or cable.

In the case of cable, all the big cable companies eventually bought out the smaller companies and they all own the lines.

With DSL, while smaller providers can setup their own DSLAMs (Primus and a few others are already doing so) it is very costly and on top of that Bell is now in a fight to disallow providers from installing their own DSLAMs. There is also an issue where Bell does not have to (as per CRTC rules) provide access to remotes.

Alternatives such as fiber are much too costly and while there is WiMax, guess who owns it? Bell and Rogers. So that leaves us with cable and DSL. It's too bad Verizon can't provide fios here.

st7860

join:2004-05-13
San Francisco, CA
reply to flycuban
i don't know why companies complain about the throttling. its your choice if you want to use lousy vpop services that depend on someone else. if their network has lousy policies, CO-LOCATE your own dslams.


adisor19

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reply to flycuban
said by flycuban See Profile :

I wonder how much $$$ the bell's are giving to the top government officials. If this was done here in the US - there would be an uproar. I guess that is what you get when there are only two choices - DSL or Cable.

Makes you think if the cable & bell's aren't in on imposing caps, throttling etc...
Heh, you would think that.. but LOOK CLOSER please. Just like the terminator, Ma Bell has reshaped itself to the huge monopoly it was back in the day. It's not that much better in the states, trust me. The only good thing is that in Verizon territory(where Ma Bell is not present), you can get a GOOD Internet connection for a reasonable price. Wonder how long that will last though..

Adi

hottboiinnc
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reply to mlerner
who says anything about Wimax? havent you heard of other Wireless Internet access. Many providers are doing it in Canada. But would you want anything different since you have a TekSavvy logo above your name.

You need to wake up and realize that the free ride is over. Build out with Wireless/ MMDS or get left in the dust.


mlerner
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said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

who says anything about Wimax? havent you heard of other Wireless Internet access. Many providers are doing it in Canada. But would you want anything different since you have a TekSavvy logo above your name.

You need to wake up and realize that the free ride is over. Build out with Wireless/ MMDS or get left in the dust.
Unfortunately most of those other wireless options aren't as reliable especially ones that use unlicensed spectrum. I might also point out TS does provide some wireless solutions as well but they're no substitute unless you have no other options at all.

You might also need to remember that your country has a much higher population so it might be viable there to have more competition and access but it's not viable here.

tiger9

join:2005-08-01
Ont,Canada
reply to hottboiinnc
2 - Bell and Rogers. Not much more.

hottboiinnc
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reply to mlerner
It is. ISPs there just want a free ride. They all need to get over the fact that the ride has come to an end and start building out using MMDS and other forms of wireless.

Ever heard of Mot Canopy? It has been designed to withstand the interference in unlicensed spectrum. Also you can't tell me that Wireless is less reliable. That's like saying that GM products are more reliable than Ford. Com'on.
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