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tiger72
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Re: It seems to me...

makes ya wonder what it would cost them to just upgrade their network instead...

battleop
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There would be a substantial difference in what it would cost to implement QOS vs. building out more infrastructure.

jlivingood
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said by tiger72:

makes ya wonder what it would cost them to just upgrade their network instead...
The new congestion management system does NOT substitute for or obviate the need for normal network upgrades - so you are correct. Growing and upgrading our network continues as a normal course of business.

We continue to improve the network in accordance with our plans, including node splits, our rollout of DOCSIS 3.0, etc. One of the reasons we believe our new congestion management practices affect so few users* is because our capacity management model and processes are working well.

* The average percentage of customers that had their traffic managed on any particular day ranged from 0.09% to 0.60% in our trial markets. There were some days in each market where no customer traffic was affected.

Jason
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Network traffic grows to fill all available pipes until a constraint is hit, unless instructed otherwise. That's how TCP/IP was designed. Widening the pipe just means a larger pipe to congest.
willp1
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I would like see the actual figures not the one what comcast came up with. After all the experience with Comcast. I believe they live in fantasy world...

cho0b
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That's right! And it would actually be WORTH IT to do the latter!

Let's not split hairs here; These ISPs are NOT losing money due to high bandwidth users. They are trying to SQUEEZE every penny they can out of customers without keeping the service up to speed with world standards.

Sooner or later they will be tripping over themselves because of the piss poor infrastructure maintenance while trying to catch up to the few providers that are investing in their companies.

jmn1207
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I appreciate you stopping by and providing more specific details on this new plan. It's a step in the right direction, in my opinion.

jester121
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You're welcome to either apply for a job there or buy the company; otherwise it's none of your business.
SilverSurfer1
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said by jlivingood:

We continue to improve the network in accordance with our plans, including node splits, our rollout of DOCSIS 3.0, etc. One of the reasons we believe our new congestion management practices affect so few users* is because our capacity management model and processes are working well.
Do you get paid extra for monitoring sites like this one and spewing feel-good Comcrap PR, or do you do it for free?

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Piss poor infrastructure maintenance is running an un-managed network. Good network management is running is managing your network elements while adding capacity at a rate your finances will allow.

LeftOfSanity
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Wasting your breath on that one. lol

jlivingood
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said by SilverSurfer1:
said by jlivingood:

We continue to improve the network in accordance with our plans, including node splits, our rollout of DOCSIS 3.0, etc. One of the reasons we believe our new congestion management practices affect so few users* is because our capacity management model and processes are working well.
Do you get paid extra for monitoring sites like this one and spewing feel-good Comcrap PR, or do you do it for free?
Ha, funny. I just work in engineering (ask Robb - met him f2f at an IETF workshop at MIT) and my interest is in seeing that the technical information about this program is accurate and correct since it is one of the projects I am a part of.

Take care,
Jason
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said by jlivingood:

[...] my interest is in seeing that the technical information about this program is accurate and correct since it is one of the projects I am a part of.

Notwithstanding your happy face benevolence, your comments are still just an attempt to spread warm-fuzzy corporate BS approved by Comcrap. You ain't foolin' anyone around these here parts but the corporate shills, bud.
pandora
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Are Comcast HSI business users throttled?

S_engineer
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said by jlivingood:

said by tiger72:

makes ya wonder what it would cost them to just upgrade their network instead...
The new congestion management system does NOT substitute for or obviate the need for normal network upgrades - so you are correct.
"The new congestion management system" = the Comcast Consumer Contract Circumvention Method!

Comcast..."we oversold it, now you cant use it as much!"

hopeflicker
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said by S_engineer:

said by jlivingood:

said by tiger72:

makes ya wonder what it would cost them to just upgrade their network instead...
The new congestion management system does NOT substitute for or obviate the need for normal network upgrades - so you are correct.
Comcast..."we oversold it, now you cant use it as much!"
LMAO

FreedomBuild
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They too busy spending the money on 'social websites', Buildings, extravagant lcd displays, ceos and the like to really invest in what is necessary or practical
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everyone gets throttled no matter what...save your PR BS for someone that doesn't know any better... I have seen and experienced the degradation of my service for the last 9 months even with a supposed upgrade in tier speed that I pay for since the switch from Insightbb.

Splitpair
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said by tiger72:

makes ya wonder what it would cost them to just upgrade their network instead...
Because there is a huge difference between capex and opex. Understand the reason for that and the answer as to why they're doing what they're doing becomes quite clear.

Wayne
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