baineschile
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Yay karl, another blunder
Good job Karl, another Comcast lie. Why doont you look at the trend of comcast's stock since the throttling was uncovered...it has gone UP (barring the full market meltdown this week).
We all know you will report nothing but negative news about Comcast, but please, no lies.
And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. |
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ztmike
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1 edit | said by baineschile  :And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. You seriously think people use all that bandwidth for illegal ways? There is so much stuff out there that IS LEGAL that will no longer be possible because Comcast can't just keep their current formula and then upgrade their system with D3..that would make to much sense for Comcast.
I guess they would rather get their healthy profits and video walls instead of screwing over their internet users. 
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI
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| I will concede that its not 100%, but you must agree that it is a significant portion. Look up ANY legitamate torrent site and see what the top download of the week are.
Even with unbox and streaming netflix, xbox live and general web surfing, one would still have to watch 50+ movies per month to hit 250 gigs. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA
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| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :Good job Karl, another Comcast lie. Why doont you look at the trend of comcast's stock since the throttling was uncovered... As annoying as I find Karl's biased rants, he statement about stock price was made towards Sandvine, not Comcast. |
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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI | Suppose it could be read like that, i just had assumed it was another anti-comcast rant |
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pspcrazy
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join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA
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| reply to baineschile
Since when did ztmike on his post every mention the word torrent? You seem to think the majority of congestion is caused by torrents lol. The majority of congestion is now caused by video services like netflix, youtube, veoh, itunes, all you can download music services, and streaming sites.
Then again it does seem like you have some stake in comcast as you never give any one anti comcast some slack. |
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openbox9
join:2004-01-26
Alexandria, VA | reply to baineschile
Well, obviously it is an anti-Comcast rant, but I would expect nothing less from Karl. I still believe he was discussing Sandvine when he mentioned the stock price though. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL
·Comcast
| The new Comcast fee
Comcast-"In order to prevent further decline of our stock, we've announced the new 'Comcast Stock Devaluation Recovery Fee'. What this entails is the absolute cessation of all network upgrades, and the implementation of our recession contingency where we cap your Internet usage. Its you the consumer that's at fault. How do you the consumer expect Comcast to oversell our networks if you the consumer actually use them. It's a shame that you the consumer actually thought that we here at Comcast meant 'unlimited'. Any further actions on the part of the consumer may force us to curb your cable tv and VOD use. We thank you for your time....and oh...by the way, our rates will increase 4% in the next quarter!"
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI
·WOW Internet and C..
| reply to pspcrazy
Re: Yay karl, another blunder
said by pspcrazy : The majority of congestion is now caused by video services like netflix, youtube, veoh, itunes, all you can download music services, and streaming sites. No it isn't. It's been said before the majority of bandwidth consumption is from P2P services. |
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lordofwhee
join:2007-10-21
Everett, WA | A year ago, yes, but in the last few months streaming video has far surpassed torrents as the largest use of bandwidth. |
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imrf
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join:2002-06-06
Utica, MI | No it hasn't. |
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JSY
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join:2000-04-05
Elmhurst, NY
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| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what people do with their bandwidth. The real debate should be if it's right for Comcast to do this and was it the right solution. I don't want to hear that it's justified because certain people do this and this would only affect them. Who gives a shit? The ends do NOT justify the means. Debate about Comcast's "solution" to their problem - not this bullshit red herring crap about this affects these people because they do this and good for them. It only makes me think that you're guilty of doing the thing that you want people to think you abhor. He who smelt it dealt it. LOL!
And what's a 'pirater'? |
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fldiver
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join:1999-12-27
Jacksonville, FL
| reply to baineschile
Can't you come up with anything new and creative; clearly not because if you stopped and thought for 10 seconds you would realize there are plenty of legitimate ways to use more than 250GB; WHY are there always people like you that always fall back on the RIAA/MPAA rhetoric..?? |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to ztmike
said by ztmike :said by baineschile :And BTW, people that use more than 250 gigs a month are piraters anyways, and I am glad to see ISPs getting involved in young males using 80% of their bandwidth so they can download bootleg copies of ironman. You seriously think people use all that bandwidth for illegal ways? There is so much stuff out there that IS LEGAL that will no longer be possible because Comcast can't just keep their current formula and then upgrade their system with D3..that would make to much sense for Comcast. I guess they would rather get their healthy profits and video walls instead of screwing over their internet users. Please site me how a NORMAL hosuehold would use 250 GB. And pleae don't post shit like using VoiP 24/7 or downloading 50 HD movies a month, because that's not normal usage. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO
| reply to JSY
I would say yes it is right for them to do it. This is simply the most reasonable way to manager their network without them outright disconnecting the users.
If you abuse the network by their standards then your traffic gets a lower priority. That does not mean anything at all you do will be affected, though it could be if your abuse has oversaturated the node. Even then, the effect of this on your internet experience may very well go unnoticed. |
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Skippy25
join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO | reply to fldiver
There are few legitimate ways to use 250GB a month on a regular basis.
There are even less legitimate ways to have an upload of multiple gigs per month on a regular basis. |
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hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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·buckeye cable
| reply to BF69
I would like to know that as well. I live with two college roommates. the cable is in my name and i pay for it so i can the speed and service i want from my cable company.
Myself and one roommate watch videos on CNN and listen to online radio stations from Clear Channel, plus I have Vonage hooked up, the other watches shows online that she missed from earlier in the week from ABC and NBC. We still do windows updates and I send large documents across the country for various projects I volunteer with and does not include any of the class work either of the other two roommates have to upload for their online classes and we never come close to the 250 gig mark of Comcast. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to fldiver
said by fldiver :Can't you come up with anything new and creative; clearly not because if you stopped and thought for 10 seconds you would realize there are plenty of legitimate ways to use more than 250GB Then you should have no problem listing some of them. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
| reply to JSY
said by JSY :Frankly, I don't give a rats ass what people do with their bandwidth. The real debate should be if it's right for Comcast to do this Um why CAN'T Comcast do it? Which law are they violating? If Comcast isn't legally allowed to have caps then the wireless companies need to get rid of their 5 GB caps. Satelite internet companies need to get rid of thier caps too. |
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digitalfreak
join:2005-12-09
49533 | reply to imrf
TK, is that you? |
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