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Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON


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Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Changed my post to summarize everything.
Hope this helps those who dare to try it ;)

I would appreciate any comments on my Line Stats as I'm not too sure how to read it.

Summary

DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK.
FLASHING CAN PERMENANTLY BRICK YOUR MODEM.
I ONLY DID THIS ONCE & CAN ONLY CONFIRM THIS WORKS WITH MY MODEM.

RENTED BELL MODEMS ARE BELL PROPERTY.
YOU MAY GET CHARGED FEES FOR MESSING WITH IT.


How to Unlock a BELL 2Wire Modem (ONLY Model 2701HG-G):
-> Bought (Not Rented) a Bell Modem from a guy
-> MDC was password protected
-> Could not visit Websites. Kept getting Bell Registration Webpage
-> Changing DNS settings on Computer or on Modem did not work
-> See my initial thread for more info: »Got screwed with 2wire modem. What now?

Solution
-> Flashed modem with a Different Firmware
-> Flashed using this link: »gateway.2wire.net/tech/upgrade.html
-> No password is needed to Flash
-> »gateway.2wire.net can be replaced with the modem IP Address 192.168.1.254 or whatever it may be
-> Firmware. See this thread (2nd Post): »www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/show···st222693
-> MDC password will be "2wire".
-> NOTE: There is no longer an option for "Application Settings" in this firmware.
It MAY be possible to get it back though. See the Firmware info below.

Firmware Info:
-> Singtel Branded Firmware (NOT Generic 2wire)

-> Firmware is called "2wire_reinstall_voice_5.29.117.3.2sp"
Version 5.29.117.3
Firmware is meant for 2700HG

-> See this site for more info and other things you can do:
»bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HGV.htm
»bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HG···29.117.3

-> Homepage Pics as requested:




-> Line Stats:
BEFORE: Alcatel SpeedTouch Home flashed with SpeedTouch 510 firmware

Operational data report : near end (Downstream)
-----------------------------------------------
Attainable line rate : 9372 kbit/sec
Attainable Atm rate : 8928 kbit/sec
Used line rate : 5488 kbit/sec
Fast used Atm rate : 5056 kbit/sec
Interleaved used Atm rate : 0 kbits/sec
Rel. capacity occupation : 59
Noise Margin : 21 dB
Line attenuation : 21 dB
Output Power : 19 dBm

Operational data report : far end (Upstream)
--------------------------------------------
No data available.



AFTER: Bell 2Wire modem flashed with Singtel firmware

DSL Connection Details
DSL Line (Wire Pair): Line 1 (inner pair)
Protocol: G.DMT Annex A
Downstream Rate: 5056 kbps
Upstream Rate: 800 kbps
Channel: Fast
Current Noise Margin: 30.0 dB (Downstream) 13.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Attenuation: 21.1 dB (Downstream) 11.0 dB (Upstream)
Current Output Power: 19.7 dBm (Downstream) 11.9 dBm (Upstream)
DSLAM Vendor Information: Country: {0x0F} Vendor: {ALCB} Specific: {0x00}
PVC Info: 0/35

uhohnogoaway

join:2008-02-21

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Not sure but I want a copy!!!
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON
Just FYI, the firmware is nothing big.

From what I can see it's been around for a bit.
It's actually called the 2700HGV Recovery firmware.

The logo that comes up now is "SingTel".

Bicephale

join:2005-09-24

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Hi,

I didn't suspect there was so much to read
about this product!!! Is it available thru my
local electronics store or must i go to eBay?
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by Bicephale See Profile :

Hi,

I didn't suspect there was so much to read
about this product!!! Is it available thru my
local electronics store or must i go to eBay?
There's a lot to read IF you want to choose another route.
Otherwise it's just a matter of flashing it.

No it's not available at any local electronics store.
eBay & Craigslist are the usual spots.
BUYER BEWARE though of scammers at both sites.

Just note 2 things:
1) I can only vouch for my model: Bell 2701HG-G
2) I tried this firmware & nothing else: 2wire_reinstall_voice_5.29.117.3.2sp

moggy

join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

»rapidshare.com/files/105406693/2···17.3.2sp

mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
It's most likely another ISP's firmware. The ultimate find would be the generic 2Wire firmware but as far as I know that's not available outside of the company.
mr_hexen

join:2007-08-02
Brampton, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by mlerner See Profile :

It's most likely another ISP's firmware. The ultimate find would be the generic 2Wire firmware but as far as I know that's not available outside of the company.
i believe the firmware in mine is generic. How can i tell?

mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
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Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by mr_hexen See Profile :

said by mlerner See Profile :

It's most likely another ISP's firmware. The ultimate find would be the generic 2Wire firmware but as far as I know that's not available outside of the company.
i believe the firmware in mine is generic. How can i tell?
Most obvious is the logo on the web interface, if it shows the 2Wire or blank then most likely it is not ISP branded but I am uncertain whether it is always customized for the ISP. Second thing which I think would probably verify almost 100% is in the MDC under Components, on mine it shows the following:


It should not show SBC or any provider. Take a screenshot if you can.

wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
·AT&T Midwest

Here's some info from what I believe is a generic 2wire:





Also the detailed log will show if the 2wire is customized for a provider, messages during bootup will have the info:

INF P0000-00-00T00:00:34 pkg: extracted ui/base_ui
INF P0000-00-00T00:00:34 pkg: extracted provider/2wire
INF P0000-00-00T00:00:34 pkg: note: provider/2wire has no uninstall script
INF P0000-00-00T00:00:36 pkg: extracted lang/2wire_es

mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by wayjac See Profile :

Here's some info from what I believe is a generic 2wire:
[att=1]
[att=2]

Also the detailed log will show if the 2wire is customized for a provider, messages during bootup will have the info:

INF P0000-00-00T00:00:34 pkg: extracted ui/base_ui
INF P0000-00-00T00:00:34 pkg: extracted provider/2wire
INF P0000-00-00T00:00:34 pkg: note: provider/2wire has no uninstall script
INF P0000-00-00T00:00:36 pkg: extracted lang/2wire_es
Just out of curiosity, where did you obtain that modem?

wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Its not my modem it belongs to someone else, I believe it was a ebay purchase.
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

said by mlerner See Profile :

It's most likely another ISP's firmware. The ultimate find would be the generic 2Wire firmware but as far as I know that's not available outside of the company.
At first I thought it was Generic. After all the name of it is "2wire_reinstall_voice_5.29.117.3.2sp" but after install, the "Singtel" logo is showing on the interface.

hmmmmmmmm

@videotron.net
So your flashing a 2701HG with the firmware for a 2700HG?

This sound?
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by hmmmmmmmm :

So your flashing a 2701HG with the firmware for a 2700HG?

This sound?
NOPE IT's NOT SOUND. Just want everyone reading this thread to know that.

BUT it did work for me. I'm not with Bell and I got screwed buying this modem because it kept asking for Bell Registration.

So it was an okay risk for me.
nicomaniaque

join:2008-02-29

Hi,

I have alredy try to flash a 2wire (from bell internet, sympatico)

i have bricked it.

the firmware i have try is: 2700hgv_.5-29-107

i Post this just for Warning cuz i have bricked it , (i use another dsl modem for my conenction) but if it's your primary. I think it's not a great idea to test. lol :P

sorry im french

mlerner
Premium
join:2000-11-25
Nepean, ON
·Rogers Hi-Speed
·TekSavvy Solutions..
·Bell Sympatico

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by nicomaniaque See Profile :

Hi,

I have alredy try to flash a 2wire (from bell internet, sympatico)

i have bricked it.

the firmware i have try is: 2700hgv_.5-29-107

i Post this just for Warning cuz i have bricked it , (i use another dsl modem for my conenction) but if it's your primary. I think it's not a great idea to test. lol :P

sorry im french
Careful with the firmware, I believe the Bell version is a 2701 which is why it bricked the modem.
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

said by nicomaniaque See Profile :

Hi,

I have alredy try to flash a 2wire (from bell internet, sympatico)

i have bricked it.

the firmware i have try is: 2700hgv_.5-29-107

i Post this just for Warning cuz i have bricked it , (i use another dsl modem for my conenction) but if it's your primary. I think it's not a great idea to test. lol :P

sorry im french
I flashed mine with this one:
2wire_reinstall_voice_5.29.117.3.2sp
nicomaniaque

join:2008-02-29

2 edits

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Majoram, Its work? no bug or strang error?

thanks cuz i will try on another 2 wire

Edit: i got a bricked 2 wire... what i can do with this?
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by nicomaniaque See Profile :

Majoram, Its work? no bug or strang error?

thanks cuz i will try on another 2 wire
So far, I have it in Bridge Mode for about 2 days now with no problems with websurfing or downloading.

I haven't specifically checked the 2wire logs though for any messages.

said by nicomaniaque See Profile :

Edit: i got a bricked 2 wire... what i can do with this?
As far as I know, there is nothing you can do.
Though I've "heard" that you can try contacting 2wire themselves and see if they will help.

said by wayjac See Profile :

The bell 2701HG-G is a up to date adsl modem
If your "old Alcatel" was a alcatel 1000 or speedtouch home/pro the 2wire just does a better job of maintaining adsl sync.
One thing the 2wire does that the alcatel didn't is recognize that it can sync to a higher rate after it has trained down.
Cool thanks for the info!
BlueDark

join:2005-01-30
Montreal, QC
·ELECTRONICBOX

where would one obtain the files .... how would the upgrade take place if i don't have access to the mdc ...

I want to do this on a telus 2wire for which i don't have access to the mdc and the modem is useless at the moment since i can't configure it for pppoe (telus doesn't use pppoe).

wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
·AT&T Midwest

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

I don't know where you would get the file, this image may help if you get one.

Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

said by BlueDark See Profile :

where would one obtain the files .... how would the upgrade take place if i don't have access to the mdc ...

I want to do this on a telus 2wire for which i don't have access to the mdc and the modem is useless at the moment since i can't configure it for pppoe (telus doesn't use pppoe).
The MDC is not required to flash the modem.
The flash site is:
gateway.2wire.net/tech/upgrade.html

As for getting the firmware, read here:
»www.the-scream.co.uk/forums/show···st222693
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON
I forgot to mention the MDC password is 2wire using the firmware I got.

moggy

join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON
works great thank you

CanerisErik
Caneris
Premium,VIP
join:2007-10-03
Toronto, ON
I'd hate to be the defender of Bell here, but just a reminder to folks who happen to be renting these that you shouldn't be tampering with rented equipment.

AOD

join:2008-01-24
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

if this is rented and if bell firmware is not on the 2wire modem when you return it. You will be charged for the full cost of the modem.
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

said by CanerisErik See Profile :

I'd hate to be the defender of Bell here, but just a reminder to folks who happen to be renting these that you shouldn't be tampering with rented equipment.
said by AOD See Profile :

if this is rented and if bell firmware is not on the 2wire modem when you return it. You will be charged for the full cost of the modem.
Ditto on both counts. After all it is their equipment.

That said, this is NOT a rented modem.

Bought it off of Craigslist and the dude never returned my numerous calls or emails when I realized it was locked down by Bell.

On that note, I figure I can do whatever I want with it.

moggy

join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON
bought mine at a flee market

Angelo_
The Network Guy
Premium
join:2002-06-18

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by moggy See Profile :

bought mine at a flee market
which and how much

moggy

join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by Angelo_ See Profile :

said by moggy See Profile :

bought mine at a flee market
which and how much
Peterborough it was in a junk box for $20
ggpr

join:2007-11-23
canada

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Where is this junk-box located in Peterborough?

moggy

join:2006-01-08
Peterborough, ON
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by ggpr See Profile :

Where is this junk-box located in Peterborough?
its a cardboard box full of junk .old there was a cable modem lots of adapters old volt meters ect and one 2wire modem. I took a chance and paid $20 bucks for it no returns. got lucky and it works

Ive bought dsl modems at the reuse it store on erskin for $3 and $5
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON
UPDATE: I've updated the main post with all relevant info and made it nice and neat.

Would appreciate any comments on my line stats as well.
I'm not too sure how to read the info.

Thanks!

Bicephale

join:2005-09-24

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Have you read the "Proxy" threads by Guspaz?:

»proxy2wire beta released!
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by Bicephale See Profile :

Have you read the "Proxy" threads by Guspaz?:

»proxy2wire beta released!
No, I didn't know about it.
Thanks for the link! I'll take a look.

wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
·AT&T Midwest

said by Majoram See Profile :

Would appreciate any comments on my line stats as well.
Your stats are good your dsl should be very stable.
Another page for stats is the mdc detailed log.
said by Majoram See Profile :

There is no longer an option for "Application Settings" in this firmware.
The "Application Settings" that was present in the bell software may still be there in the singtel software in the firewall icon. I think bell had the firewall settings renamed "Application Settings".



Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

Cool, thanks.

I mainly mentioned the Application settings bit for others.

I'm currently using the 2wire in Bridge mode for now.
It seems that it improved my connection quite a bit from the old Alcatel I had .. right?

wayjac
Premium,MVM
join:2001-12-22
Indy
·AT&T Midwest

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by Majoram See Profile :

I'm currently using the 2wire in Bridge mode for now.
It seems that it improved my connection quite a bit from the old Alcatel I had .. right?
The bell 2701HG-G is a up to date adsl modem
If your "old Alcatel" was a alcatel 1000 or speedtouch home/pro the 2wire just does a better job of maintaining adsl sync.
One thing the 2wire does that the alcatel didn't is recognize that it can sync to a higher rate after it has trained down.

erfans
n00b

join:2008-10-10
Scarborough, ON
Will this work on an AT@T 2Wire 2701HG-G. I'm going to purchase it tomorrow from craigslist so I need to know. Thanks!
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by erfans See Profile :

Will this work on an AT@T 2Wire 2701HG-G. I'm going to purchase it tomorrow from craigslist so I need to know. Thanks!
Okay 2 things:
1) AT&T modems are unlocked and no need to reflash them.
2) Model 2701HG-G is Bell not AT&T. AT&T should be 2701HG-B

Figure out which one you have before flashing.
slidxe

join:2008-11-04
does that mean i can buy the ones on ebay (AT&T) and use it with teksavvy?

nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by slidxe See Profile :

does that mean i can buy the ones on ebay (AT&T) and use it with teksavvy?
The ones on eBay are 2700HG-B models. They are unlocked and they work just fine on TekSavvy. I am posting this using one of them.
slidxe

join:2008-11-04

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

oh i meant this one "2wire 2701HG-B"

nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by slidxe See Profile :

oh i meant this one "2wire 2701HG-B"
Same answer.
follaz

join:2008-12-08
·TekSavvy Solutions..

I got TekSavvy dry DSL. The Bell technician was here today. After he did his thing, the line was not up. Befre I get a chance to call TekSavvy to see why (it turned out it was not activated yet), he went ahead and gave me this 2Wire 2701HG-G for free!

Now I guess to make use of it, I will have to unlock it. I will test it once I get the line up first. But had a question:

Did you guys figure out how the original firmware can be backed up?

Also, after I flash it, should I use it for an MLPPP strategy?
DSL_Ricer
Premium
join:2007-07-22

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by follaz See Profile :

Also, after I flash it, should I use it for an MLPPP strategy?
AFAIK, 2wire's don't natively support MLPPP. You'll have to set it in bridge mode and do MLPPP from a different computer.
afallenhope

join:2008-12-31
Belle River, ON

Hey,

I have Tek Savvy Internet, too, I purchased a Bell 2Wire modem 2701HG-G modem aswell.. I was wondering when you flashed it.. what setup-keycode did you use? Because I read the page and they said for extra features you can use different keycode, such as content filtering, and parental controls and many others.

apparently:
"5225-2374-WG62-22AS-BJ7P" will give you 'Internet Access Controls', 'Content Screening' and 'Firewall Monitor'

"528Y-27G4-A222-22BJ-B22V" will just give you only 'Firewall Monitor'

The reference can be found at:»bt2700hgv.tripod.com/ir1002700HG···29.117.3

any help would be appreciated.
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

It's been a while but I believe I tried those and they didn't work for me (nothing happened).
happy2007

join:2009-01-07
North York, ON
I believe "SingTel" firmware is for Singapore Telecom, but don't know what's difference between it and generic one. Anyone has a idea?

nanook
Premium,MVM
join:2007-12-02
·Bell Sympatico
·TekSavvy Solutions..

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by happy2007 See Profile :

what's difference between it and generic one. Anyone has a idea?
See the link a couple of posts above.

FWIW I have used the following codes with the standard ex-SBC/ATT 2700HG-Bs and 4.25.19 firmware:
522P-22P4-6262-22AT-F2NV
52AN-2374-WHE2-22AZ-B27S
dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I flashed one of these modems I got 2nd hand and am online with Teksavvy...using the Singtel firmware, how do I set it to bridge mode? It only has options for pppoe/pppoa/ipoa/static...
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by dbsanfte See Profile :

Maybe I'm just an idiot, but I flashed one of these modems I got 2nd hand and am online with Teksavvy...using the Singtel firmware, how do I set it to bridge mode? It only has options for pppoe/pppoa/ipoa/static...
How to set Bridge Mode:
»2wire: How to set to Bridge mode?

infamouskid

join:2007-01-24
North York, ON
is there a generic firmware?
--
"carpe diem"
Majoram

join:2002-10-22
Toronto, ON

Re: Unlocking Bell 2Wire modems....

said by infamouskid See Profile :

is there a generic firmware?
I didn't find a generic one but it's been a while since I last searched.
dbsanfte

join:2005-03-15
Montreal, QC
·Colbanet


2 edits
Well, I found a way to ghetto it by DMZing my router on the modem's firewall config, and plugging everything into that... (I need a firewall with UPnP).

Edit: After checking my router says it has a public IP address. Not quite bridge mode though...
lightpsycho

join:2009-03-19
Montreal, QC

Hey, I would just like to understand something here, regarding the Singtel firmware.

I read lots of posts regarding people wanting to use the 2701 in bridge mode, and some other posts stating that trying to use it in PPPoE is not really working...it would add @singtel.com after the username. Is that true?
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