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maartena
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Re: The only true way to block piracy

said by TSI Gabe See Profile :

Is to cut the cable. Which obviously defeats the point of having access to the Internet.
You may be too young to remember.... or too old that you passed it - But in the early nineties, when the CD burner was invented, but the internet wasn't quite there yet.... spreading stuff around on "warez CD's" in schools, offices, etc was immensely popular.

Since a single CD-R cost something like $5 by then, and burning one on 1x or 2x speed took 30 or 60 minutes, people were often selling these CD's, full of the latest apps and games, for like $10.

Paper lists used to go around, what each release of a CD contained. Often the CD's and its contents were released by known release groups, some of which are still known today, complete with cracks, etc. Often, games were "ripped" so that the videos were taken out, which reduced the game size significantly.

These kind of distributions were very popular in 90ties, but slowly died out after 2002 or so, with the rise of broadband, and the low price of a CD Burner and CD Discs. Disc copies were still made of course, but people just started copying individual games and software packages. By then, a game release contained a FULL CD, sometimes more then one.

If the Internet were re-designed in such a way that would make piracy impossible.... I will guarantee you that CD/DVD release mechanisms and illegal trade in schools and offices will leap and take off.

It can't be stopped. We used to copy cassette tapes in the 80ties, my parents even had one of those big spool machines and could copy music by connecting it to another one, and we're talking the 60ties here.....

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said by maartena See Profile :

my parents even had one of those big spool machines and could copy music by connecting it to another one,
"big spool machines"

It's called a reel to reel tape recorder.



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Good times, good times.

Back then, software was mostly distributed on floppies. So, you could collect an absolutely massive amount of software on a single CD-R.

The internet wasn't there, but dialup BBSes were. Access to pirated content was granted on a sort of invite/code word system. You generally had to politely ask a sysop for "elite" access, and/or be referred to by another member with access. There were usually up/down ratios that you had to maintain. That's where most of the software on those CDs came from.

My first CD burner was a huge external Philips CDD521, I got it as a hot deal at about $2,000. It was the size of a large AV receiver. The first blank I burned on was around $35 per blank. What was especially sucky about that was buffer underruns and failed burns were really common - made for some REALLY expensive coasters.

The price went down to the $12-ish range for quite a while before it fell to the almost nothing that it is today.
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Oh I'm old enough to remember the days of sharing files over BBS


dadkins
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said by b10010011 See Profile :

said by maartena See Profile :

my parents even had one of those big spool machines and could copy music by connecting it to another one,
"big spool machines"

It's called a real to real tape recorder.


Reel to Reel...
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said by dadkins See Profile :

said by b10010011 See Profile :

said by maartena See Profile :

my parents even had one of those big spool machines and could copy music by connecting it to another one,
"big spool machines"

It's called a real to real tape recorder.


Reel to Reel...
Doh! Thats what happens when I post before coffee, the spell checker does not question homonyms as long as they are spelled right.


maartena
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said by b10010011 See Profile :

said by maartena See Profile :

my parents even had one of those big spool machines and could copy music by connecting it to another one,
"big spool machines"

It's called a real to real tape recorder.


Reel to Reel...
Heh

Although I consider myself fairly fluent, English is not my first language. Reel to reel tape recorder it is.


maartena
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said by djrobx See Profile :

Good times, good times.
The internet wasn't there, but dialup BBSes were. Access to pirated content was granted on a sort of invite/code word system. You generally had to politely ask a sysop for "elite" access, and/or be referred to by another member with access. There were usually up/down ratios that you had to maintain. That's where most of the software on those CDs came from.
Yup, I remember those. I had access to a few of them.... my parents would be mad because I was tying up the house phone line, and increasing the phone bill as local calls were not toll-free where I lived.

Nowadays.... I walk around with a 4 Gb USB flash drive on my key chain, always carry it in my pocket. Very handy


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said by b10010011 See Profile :

Doh! Thats what happens when I post before coffee, the spell checker does not question homonyms as long as they are spelled right.
Yeah, don't you hate it when you own yourself. It happens to us all.
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said by maartena See Profile :

said by djrobx See Profile :

Good times, good times.
The internet wasn't there, but dialup BBSes were. Access to pirated content was granted on a sort of invite/code word system. You generally had to politely ask a sysop for "elite" access, and/or be referred to by another member with access. There were usually up/down ratios that you had to maintain. That's where most of the software on those CDs came from.
Yup, I remember those. I had access to a few of them.... my parents would be mad because I was tying up the house phone line, and increasing the phone bill as local calls were not toll-free where I lived.

Nowadays.... I walk around with a 4 Gb USB flash drive on my key chain, always carry it in my pocket. Very handy
Ah the memories of downloading 10 zipped floppy images at 9600 baud...

Then getting that 28.8 modem and say WOW it will only take 5 hours now!


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reply to TSI Gabe
Yeah, I ran a FidoNET bbs, had 3 lines 1200bps, but we had email (netmail) way back when. Everything got shared, it was the culture..... it's where all this originated.. SHARING
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elios

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reply to maartena
IRC and privet FTP was also big in the 90s
^.~

b10010011
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said by elios See Profile :

IRC and privet FTP was also big in the 90s
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