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 JoelPremium
join:2005-01-29
Plainfield, IL | Dangerous precedent My problem with this is that I feel like I'm being punished if I use my connection. I may not be coming close to the cap now (though I am a heavy user as a photographer, hobbyist webcaster/podcaster, and I maintain a couple websites for two volunteer organizations), but I see this as a threat to VOD services as well as any kind of streaming content. And who knows what my usage will be like 6 months or a year from now. It also sets a dangerous precedent; they say they may raise the caps, they can also lower them. Comcast holds all the cards. Living in the Chicago-area, we also have no competition here either (and don't tell me U-Verse, they can't come close to offering the 16/2 that Comcast can). So basically what we have is a monopoly changing the rules in the middle of the game, and there's nothing that any of us can do about it.
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|   funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: Dangerous precedent said by Joel:My problem with this is that I feel like I'm being punished if I use my connection. I may not be coming close to the cap now (though I am a heavy user as a photographer, hobbyist webcaster/podcaster, and I maintain a couple websites for two volunteer organizations), but I see this as a threat to VOD services as well as any kind of streaming content. This is one of the biggest risks of this plan. It is the mental equivalent of budgeting your "free minutes" on the cell phone. Even though you may be far from your limit, you are mentally dissuaded from doing anything that might be metered.
So, that said, divide your 250 GB "budget" into 10 GB per day. You certainly won't use your 10 GB every day, but on days that you will, it will be your mental "tickler" to check how much you've used so far and to ensure that you've got room. Given that people won't use their 10 GB every day, then by the last week of the month, they should have plenty left to finish out the week.
said by Joel:And who knows what my usage will be like 6 months or a year from now. That's the second thing I don't like about this plan -- it squelches growth.
said by Joel:It also sets a dangerous precedent; they say they may raise the caps, they can also lower them. Sure they can, but I personally don't see this happening.
said by Joel:(and don't tell me U-Verse, they can't come close to offering the 16/2 that Comcast can) No, but they can offer you quite a bit more than 250 GB. 250 GB is about 750 Kbps, 24/7, all month long. So if you're quite the bulk user, then DSL might be the best way to go. Furthermore, if you're a bulk uploader, then Cable is a poor technology for you.
said by Joel:So basically what we have is a monopoly changing the rules in the middle of the game, and there's nothing that any of us can do about it. But that is not Comcast's fault. Sure, they'll fight to keep competition out -- but that's what companies do. Our government has to make a plan to restore competition and execute it over the objections of these companies.
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join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Dangerous precedent said by funchords:But that is not Comcast's fault. Sure, they'll fight to keep competition out -- but that's what companies do. Our government has to make a plan to restore competition and execute it over the objections of these companies. Finally, someone realizes this. Yes, Comcast could do better, but they are the players in this game.
If we want change, we must stop looking to the companies like Comcast and AT&T for that change - instead we mus tlook at our government. | |
| | | | | Re: Dangerous precedent Yes, because all of our politicians have a firm grasp on the intricacies of the broadband market!
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| | | | funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: Dangerous precedent said by S_engineer:Yes, because all of our politicians have a firm grasp on the intricacies of the broadband market! No, they only know what they hear, and who they hear from most often are the big companies who, through the use of the money we send to them in subscription fees, hire full-time staff to lobby. They outspend non-profits in orders of magnitude and even erect their own non-profit shill groups to provide "balance."
I've lived it for only the past 11 months. These politicians swim in this poisonous stew every day. When they cut through that kind of B.S. and actually do something right for Americans, we ought to be amazed (and they ought to be applauded).
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| | fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
join:2005-05-20
kudos:3 | Unfortunately, Government is not the solution, ... it is the problem. It was government that allowed businesses to get so large. It is the reason Wall Street is falling apart. It's the reason home owners are in the place TO lose their homes today.
Government is inept and failing on so many fronts. However, I would say that its Government that needs to be changed and fixed first.. maybe then, we can get this nation back on track.
Right now, broadband caps are the least from the top of priorities right now. | |
| | | | RobIn Deo speramus, God Bless the USAPremium
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Kendall, FL
kudos:2 | Re: Dangerous precedent said by fiberguy:Unfortunately, Government is not the solution, ... it is the problem. It was government that allowed businesses to get so large. It is the reason Wall Street is falling apart. It's the reason home owners are in the place TO lose their homes today. Government is inept and failing on so many fronts. However, I would say that its Government that needs to be changed and fixed first.. maybe then, we can get this nation back on track. Right now, broadband caps are the least from the top of priorities right now. We must look to our government to change the rules, and change the playing field. Not to regulate the market, as they have been doing. | |
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Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | said by fiberguy:Right now, broadband caps are the least from the top of priorities right now. Exactly how I'm feeling, lately. It seems so trivial a concern.
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join:2003-05-19
San Luis Obispo, CA | What's interesting is the Cellular Phone business is now offering "unlimited" offerings(think Sprint), while the ISP's are going back to the old days of "limited minutes"(think of dial-up AOL). Something here WILL break on the ISP side in the not to distant future. All it needs is "ONE" ISP not to implement caps at all. Let's face it, internet access is WAY cheap these days-it's the individual ISP that wants to recoup cost of access to provide service. I'm willing to bet that ISP's will buy a clue "EVENTUALLY" to offer un-metered service. Kudo's to Verizon's FiOs, ATT's DSL( my current ISP), Charter, and others to sit back and think this thing through for a while.
P2P is a viable service used by many that's perfectly legal to use-shame on those that think not. Those of you that can, WILL migrate to ISP's that offer un-fettered service.
Vote with your billfold, folks.
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| | funchordsHelloPremium,MVM
join:2001-03-11
Yarmouth Port, MA
kudos:5 | Re: Dangerous precedent Verizon came out today saying, no caps, no throttling. I'm moving in 3 or 4 months, and Verizon FIOS will be on the "required features" list for the new place. Not that 3000/768 DSL hasn't been just fine, I just want the choice and I think that Verizon has earned it. It's also high time I learned more about that technology.
Sky, an ISP in the UK that is UN-capping its premium service, by popular demand (premium is only 5 pounds more than their 40 GB capped service, but it appears that there is a FAP of some kind.).
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