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Re: Rural General Suckitude

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

And here I thought the FCC had conducted tests to ensure that the coverage would not be diminished when the switch to digital was made.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC also allowed adjustments in transmitted power so that the digital stations get a further reach(similar to the analog coverage) in order to cover areas like those on the map in orange.
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Re: Rural General Suckitude

said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

said by jmn1207 See Profile :

And here I thought the FCC had conducted tests to ensure that the coverage would not be diminished when the switch to digital was made.
And I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC also allowed adjustments in transmitted power so that the digital stations get a further reach(similar to the analog coverage) in order to cover areas like those on the map in orange.
Hopefully there won't be any situations that might cause one signal to bleed over the top of another. If that is even possible with this type of signal. I know with my radio stations I can make a mix of Mexican Radio meets Contemporary Jazz. This occurs late in the evening and I call this music style, Contexican Jazzio.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC also allowed adjustments in transmitted power so that the digital stations get a further reach(similar to the analog coverage) in order to cover areas like those on the map in orange.
If I recall correctly, many stations whose frequency lies within the VHF range will actually be broadcasting with less power to prevent interference with FM stations. Plus they don't pass through physical objects (walls for example) as well as UHF frequencies.

Many of those stations are currently broadcasting in the UHF frequency range, but will switch to VHF after Feb 17, 2009.

For example Philadelphia's KWY-DT (CBS) is currently broadcasting on a UHF frequency (don't have it in front of me at the moment), but will switch to channel 3 after the switchover. That means people who can receive the channel now, might not be able to get it after the transition.

See »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···t=823166

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Re: Rural General Suckitude

said by Morac See Profile :

Many of those stations are currently broadcasting in the UHF frequency range, but will switch to VHF after Feb 17, 2009.

For example Philadelphia's KWY-DT (CBS) is currently broadcasting on a UHF frequency (don't have it in front of me at the moment), but will switch to channel 3 after the switchover. That means people who can receive the channel now, might not be able to get it after the transition.

See »www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre···t=823166
Thanks for link. After looking at that thread I came across this link that will allow anyone to stay on top of the OTA digital plans and follow thru.

»www.rabbitears.info/dtr.php

And if you do a zip code search and keep the mileage option to 40, you should be able to see what is/will be available digitally on 2/17/2009 in your area.

»www.rabbitears.info/search.php

I have tested for my area and can get all the stations listed with rabbit ears and a converter box up to about 35 miles away.

Here is an example of what is available when using search and listing tools:
»www.rabbitears.info/search.php?r···miles=40

»www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service···000.html

»fjallfoss.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe···um=61111

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Actually, in Philly, it's WPVI-DT (the ABC station) that's moving their digital signal back to VHF-Lo, not KYW-DT.

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said by StudioTech See Profile :

Actually, in Philly, it's WPVI-DT (the ABC station) that's moving their digital signal back to VHF-Lo, not KYW-DT.
Oops, you're right. That's actually worse since WPVI-DT doesn't come in very well currently. I shudder to think of what it will be like after the switchover.
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The last I read for this area the FCC had cut the allowable transmit power to prevent interference to stations in the Midwest.
Creating the problem of no receivable stations even with a large fringe antenna.
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Re: Rural General Suckitude

They should have made USA DTV be encoded in CDMA.

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that would help increase bandwidth efficiency so you could get a better picture or sound, but not raw signal strength.

cell phones work because there are towers all over the place. If you paid $50/mo for tv service you could have similar land based radio coverage.

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said by TKJunkMail See Profile :

And I wouldn't be surprised if the FCC also allowed adjustments in transmitted power so that the digital stations get a further reach
I agree there will be likely be changes allowed after Feb 2009 as stations/customers get some real world DTV experience. The real test will not be Feb 18, 2009 but spring of 2009 when trees leaf out. Folks that had good TV reception in winter may lose it in summer.

Currently with simulcasting of analog and digital TV bands things are pretty crowded. After analog goes dark, even with loss of channels 52-69, band will likely be less congested in most regions. That means interference will be less of a problem making it viable to modify signal strength.

Something many people may not be aware of is customer signal strength is a combination of many factors: 1) Transmit power, 2) Antenna gain, 3) Distance 4) Terrain 5) Multipath and other impairments.

We tend to think of TV Stations as being onmidirectional – transmitting equal signal in all directions but that is rarely the case. Stations design antenna to have difference gain in different directions. It is a lot more cost effective to double receive signal strength (3 dB change) by tweaking antenna radiation pattern to change Effective Radiated Power (ERP) then to double transmit power. There are limits to this of course but it is not just a matter of cranking up transmit power with commensurate increase in utility bill.

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