Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to ninjatutle
Re: Piracy will kill the internet
Corporations will kill the internet not piracy.
they already want to fill our computers with rootkits just to play their latest games or music CDs. and if that rootkit DRM detects something it doesnt like it wont run the said game/media.(there is a class action suit against EA atm about spore having SecuROM spyware err rootkit drm.)
P2P is causing zero noticeable loss to the industry, when something good comes out people still pay(each of the LOTR movies made close to a billion in theater ticket sales, not counting DVD and Collector sets sales) ironicly it was also the most pirated movie when it came out.
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elios
join:2005-11-15
Springfield, MO
 ·Mediacom
1 edit | reply to Doctor Four
pretty much
and seeing how fast the net became accepted and then P2P
the law of excelrating returns says the what ever replaces P2P will become even bigger even faster
there for it this kind of stuff will never go away
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ninjatutle
Premium
join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA
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said by chRoniX10  :Long live P2P... Yeah, thanks for ruining the interweb for everyone. Bad apples  |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to ninjatutle
you remind me of the gun control people who think guns can only be used for crimes.
P2P has legal uses, 10 million people do one of those legal uses whenever World of Warcraft patches.
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Nightfall
My Goal Is To Deny Yours
Premium,MVM
join:2001-08-03
Grand Rapids, MI
 ·Site5.com
 ·AT&T Midwest
·Comcast
| reply to Doctor Four
said by Doctor Four : ninjatutle is a well known anti-piracy/p2p troll around here. It has already been demonstrated time after time that it is impossible to stop p2p in any way, shape, or form. Yet the MAFIAA which he and others of his ilk seem to support keep spending millions of dollars on so-called "technology" like Audible Magic's Copy Sense, only to have them fail epically and utterly. Filters will not stop copyright infringement online, nor can they differentiate between "legal" and "pirated" content, no matter what anyone may say to the contrary. And losses to the industry from p2p are a drop in the bucket compared to those from bootlegging, which is far more common. I love how people who have a differing opinion to what is popular is known as a troll. Is that just because they don't agree with your stance?
Oh, and since we are just throwing out opinions here....the losses to the industry from P2P are far worse than bootlegging. I know countless people who use P2P for software, music, games, and movies and don't spend a dime on these things in the stores. Bootlegging requires you to be in the right place at the right time to buy a physical product. Much easier to download and run. |
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NeoandGeo
join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN
3 edits | reply to StickyFingers
Except that they're not starving. 
To the post above:
The only form of media that is being killed off is cd music because of a tyrannical business model. Software and movie sales are still rising, even with piracy being around every corner. Yes, it does hurt, but it's not making anyone go bankrupt, except for the music labels. But the artists are still able to profit large amounts of money by going on tour and self promotion through P2P and word of mouth. CD sales should completely die off, and the music should be freely distributed, and the Artist doing their own merchandise and touring to make money. If they are able to get out to millions of people, they don't need Epic Records swindling them out of 90%+ of the CD sales they generate. |
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buzz_4_20
join:2003-09-20
Presque Isle, ME | reply to ninjatutle
How many got broadband for downloading music?
I suspect piracy created the internet as we know it. |
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NeoandGeo
join:2003-05-10
Harrison, TN | I got broadband so that......wholesome pictures....didn't load one row of pixels every 5 seconds. |
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MrMaster
What If
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join:2000-12-16
Austin, TX
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·RoadRunner Cable
| reply to stomp357
said by stomp357 :said by ninjatutle :I'd rather have piracy filters in place rather than capage. The P2P thieves can't handle the truth. Why would you need more than what the caps provide? Anyone needing more than that is obviously a thief? You're joking right? You should have used a different emoticon. probably one that was winking. |
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dnoyeB
Ferrous Phallus
join:2000-10-09
Southfield, MI | reply to buzz_4_20
I use it mainly for newsgroups and email and web browsing. Large bandwidth use from me is typically a torrent to a new Mandriva ISO. Or maybe Eclipse.. |
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stomp357
join:2003-04-13
Lake Charles, LA
·Suddenlink
| reply to MrMaster
said by MrMaster :said by stomp357 :said by ninjatutle :I'd rather have piracy filters in place rather than capage. The P2P thieves can't handle the truth. Why would you need more than what the caps provide? Anyone needing more than that is obviously a thief? You're joking right? You should have used a different emoticon. probably one that was winking. Yes. Going by Ninjaturtle's opinion on how everyone's guilty of thievery for using P2P, his not wanting caps must mean he wants all that speed, & enormous data use to steal. |
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dslhater
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join:2001-09-24
Chicopee, MA
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said by KrK :First, the piracy filters. Then the "Hate speech" filters. Then the "Patriotic" filters.... then the "Damage the Economy" filters. Pretty soon, you'll either be in "Kiddie-Fun-Zone" walled garden internet.... or else you'll be a 'Terrorist' in the "illegal black market internet..." Walled garden internet? Don't give AOL executives any false hope. Shame on you 
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sivran
Long Live The Suite
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join:2003-09-15
Arlington, TX
clubs: | reply to Nightfall
A wise programmer once said, "don't worry when your software is pirated. Worry when it isn't." |
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Ian
Premium
join:2002-06-18
ON
·Bell Sympatico
| said by sivran :A wise programmer once said, "don't worry when your software is pirated. Worry when it isn't." Ha! That's awesome. Never heard that one. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| reply to sivran
said by sivran :A wise programmer once said, "don't worry when your software is pirated. Worry when it isn't." i think this is very accurate, look at photoshop. great program and the piracy rates prove it.
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tgreaves
join:2008-03-20
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said by chRoniX10 :Long live P2P... This group wont do squat to curb p2p, just another big waste of money. No anti-piracy organization will be able to stop the growth of P2P which is the millions if not more... I agree.. I have used pirated software before (not going to mention what) but it was a few pieces of software that I could have never bought on my own and would have never learned how to use with getting a pirated copy..
After I learned said software I convinced my company to purchase and begin using this software.. We have many machines running this software now and the company who wrote it made alot of money.. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
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join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to ninjatutle
i smell a Photoshop tester!!! 
i think PS has to be #1 on the pirated list.
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY | reply to ninjatutle
Re: big CORPORATIONS will kill the internet
said by ninjatutle :as we know it... FIxed it for you. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to ninjatutle
Re: Piracy will kill the internet
said by ninjatutle :I'd rather have piracy filters in place rather than capage. The P2P thieves can't handle the truth. Utterly irrelevant nonsense. |
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kamm
join:2001-02-14
Brooklyn, NY
·T-Mobile US
| reply to MrMaster
said by MrMaster :said by stomp357 :said by ninjatutle :I'd rather have piracy filters in place rather than capage. The P2P thieves can't handle the truth. Why would you need more than what the caps provide? Anyone needing more than that is obviously a thief? You're joking right? You should have used a different emoticon. probably one that was winking. You either don't have aa clue about the subject or about ninja's well-known anti-consumer and pro-RIAA/MPAA troll stature - either way your posts are hilarious.
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