What's up with OOL domain servers now? in OptimumOnline http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21163739 en Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:45:29 EDT Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:45:29 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21195077 HydroponiK : Hmm I just realized the site is having issues, b/c I got a dead link too a few mins ago.
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Ain't that a bitch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21195077 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:55:51 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21195032 TheWiseGuy : Both Opendns and OOL DNS time out for a lookup of the link you posted.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21195032 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:44:54 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21194777 HydroponiK : What sneaky bastards....

Even certain sites which do not have dead links gets hijacked to their site.

Try to access »newzleech.com/ if you haven't opted out.

Very shady in my opinion....
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Ain't that a bitch.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21194777 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:00:59 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176673 Ken Peterson : OpenDNS is an alternative.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176673 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:52:32 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176532 IllIlIlllIll : is there something better available ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176532 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:09:52 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176194 MxxCon : do not use 4.2.2.x
they are slow, overloaded, and some of those anycast'ed servers are still not patched against that dns hole from a few month ago.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176194 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:55:12 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176028 anon :
said by Lex Luthor See Profile :

said by stevehoff See Profile :

Opt out is not cookie based. It opts out your modem and is permanent, even if your IP address changes.
Anyone able to verify yet if it is cookie or modem based?

I just tried it from a Lightpath connection and it said I have opted out, so I'm probably thinking it's just a cookie, which would be pretty lame.
It's most definitely modem-based, and MUCH smarter than any other so-called "opt-out" scheme we've seen at other ISPs for DNS-hijacking, such as:

- having to configure specific other DNS servers manually (Verizon)
- Cookie-based "opt-out" that really isn't changing the underlying DNS fuckage (various ISPs), only the browser's presentation.

It appears that the opt-out even survives hooking up another device to the cable modem (try it - hook up your PC instead of your AP/NAT), using a different ethernet MAC - the DNS-hijacking remains *OFF*.

While other ISPs have paid at most lipservice with their so-called 'opt-out'. They designed it cutting corners and with the intent to make it difficult enough to actively deter people from opting out, but OOL seems to have achieved something everyone else hasn't: opt-out at low protocol level that's sticky for good:

After opting out, from another machine here:

$ dig @167.206.254.1 foobar.dslreports.com a

; > DiG 9.3.3 > @167.206.254.1 foobar.dslreports.com a
; (1 server found)
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 27150
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;foobar.dslreports.com. IN A

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
dslreports.com. 1200 IN SOA ns0.easydns.com. admin.easydns.com. 1217062612 21600 7200 604800 1200

;; Query time: 58 msec
;; SERVER: 167.206.254.1#53(167.206.254.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Sep 26 22:21:41 2008
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 94

e.g.: no resolution for something that DSLR has explicitly decided does not exist.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176028 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:27:02 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21175785 IllIlIlllIll : 4.2.2.1 to 4.2.2.6, cached on local intranet server.
end of story]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21175785 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:46:56 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168155 StreetSpirit :
said by yummcookies :

said by mozart11 See Profile :

I found the opt out. I wonder if it is just a cookie set? I delete cookies all the time.

This is jut mad
Yes it is cookie based because cookies on one PC will affect every computer in the house. That is how cookies work.
Uhh, yeah... :hmm:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168155 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:04:28 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168137 anon :
said by RickNY See Profile :

said by yummcookies :

Yes it is cookie based
said by yummcookies :

This is obviously not cookie based.
Wow, this is almost like calling customer service
said by yummcookies :

said by RickNY See Profile :

said by yummcookies :

cookies on one PC will affect every computer in the house. That is how cookies work.
Ah yes -- I love when Cablevision employees know what they are talking about. :huh:
That is the bad thing about forums, hard to read sarcasm. :uhh:
Wow, this almost like not reading.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168137 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 16:00:12 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167942 RickNY :
said by yummcookies :

Yes it is cookie based
said by yummcookies :

This is obviously not cookie based.
Wow, this is almost like calling customer service]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167942 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:26:32 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167822 anon :
said by Lex Luthor See Profile :

said by stevehoff See Profile :

Opt out is not cookie based. It opts out your modem and is permanent, even if your IP address changes.
Anyone able to verify yet if it is cookie or modem based?

I just tried it from a Lightpath connection and it said I have opted out, so I'm probably thinking it's just a cookie, which would be pretty lame.
I opted out using the browser in my PS3 and now all 6 PCs in my house do not get redirection page. This is obviously not cookie based.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167822 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:02 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167509 Lex Luthor :
said by stevehoff See Profile :

Opt out is not cookie based. It opts out your modem and is permanent, even if your IP address changes.
Anyone able to verify yet if it is cookie or modem based?

I just tried it from a Lightpath connection and it said I have opted out, so I'm probably thinking it's just a cookie, which would be pretty lame.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167509 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:24:44 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167282 anon :
said by RickNY See Profile :

said by yummcookies :

cookies on one PC will affect every computer in the house. That is how cookies work.
Ah yes -- I love when Cablevision employees know what they are talking about. :huh:
That is the bad thing about forums, hard to read sarcasm. :uhh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167282 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:47:23 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166881 anon : Your the exact user this is aimed at. One that does not know what a cookie is and what it does.
Good job they opt-in you chaps, you'd never be able to do it yourself.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166881 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:39:32 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166753 frdrizzt : It started in the past week. You can always edit your hosts file if there's something you typically type in the browser, or you can do what would be the easiest way, and just type "cnn" into firefox 3 and let it auto-complete for you based on your previous browsing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166753 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:18:06 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166414 majortom1029 :
said by Ken Peterson See Profile :

OpenDNS does this by default. What's the big surprise?
I think people like to bash cablevision. If verizon did this with fios everybody would be praising it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166414 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 11:17:43 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166285 Ken Peterson : OpenDNS does this by default. What's the big surprise?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166285 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:51:29 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166186 Jmartz : Cablevision should have done this as an "opt IN" service. Basically it doesn't get turned on unless people go and turn it on.

It appears as though Cablevision is trying to be super controlling lately. First they hijack your ability to watch SD feeds if you have an HD cable box without letting you shut it off, and then they turn this thing... thankfully it can be opted out. But they didn't exactly tell people it was going to happen... most people probably don't even know that the channel mappings were going to change on the cable boxes either.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166186 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:33:09 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166002 RickNY :
said by yummcookies :

cookies on one PC will affect every computer in the house. That is how cookies work.
Ah yes -- I love when Cablevision employees know what they are talking about. :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21166002 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:58:58 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165925 anon :
said by mozart11 See Profile :

I found the opt out. I wonder if it is just a cookie set? I delete cookies all the time.

This is jut mad
Yes it is cookie based because cookies on one PC will affect every computer in the house. That is how cookies work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165925 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:40:57 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165803 stevehoff : Opt out is not cookie based. It opts out your modem and is permanent, even if your IP address changes.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165803 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:12:14 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165455 TheWiseGuy : I read recently that they were about to implement it. :(

I can't find where I read it though :(

I'm still getting a "No such name" reply, here is the response, copied from wireshark, from the OOL server I use, to a mis-typed name.


4 2008-09-25 07:16:24.040443 192.168.0.2 167.206.251.129 DNS Standard query A www.nasdaqrrader.com

5 2008-09-25 07:16:24.061915 167.206.251.129 192.168.0.2 DNS Standard query response, No such name


EDIT
Here is what I remember seeing

»www.cablerant.com/index.php?topi···#msg2470

Not sure where I saw the info from cablerant since I don't read cablerant.
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Warning, If you post nonsense and use misinformation and are here to argue based on those methods, you will be put on ignore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165455 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:23:45 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165300 mozart11 : I found the opt out. I wonder if it is just a cookie set? I delete cookies all the time.

This is jut mad]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21165300 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 05:52:07 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21164896 MxxCon : woah, how long have they been doing this dns hijacking?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21164896 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:55:44 EDT Re: What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21164094 RickNY :

»www.optimum.net/Article/DNS

Can I opt-out of the DNS Assistance Service?
Yes, you can opt-out of the service. If you opt-out of the service, you will no longer receive any search based help when you misspell or mistype a web address, but instead you will receive browser error messages. When you opt-out of the service, it will affect all computers that are in your household and accessing the Internet by Optimum Online Service.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21164094 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:47:37 EDT What's up with OOL domain servers now? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21163739 mozart11 : So I always just type the site name, cnn, facebook, whatever in the URL space in Safari, and it just goes to the site.

Not anymore. I get this from OOL



AND

if you you click the name OOL comes up with? It does another OOL domain with the .com at the end. And then click the link.

I haven't used a .com at the end of a URL in years. No problems.

Now this.

any ideas?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21163739 Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:41:49 EDT