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qworster

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Here's what they REALLY mean!

From the movie "Network"

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it, is that clear?! You think you have merely stopped a business deal - that is not the case! The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity, it is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations! There are no peoples! There are no Russians! There are no Arabs! There are no Third Worlds! There is no West! There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-variate, multi-national dominion of dollars! Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rins, rubles, pounds and shekels! It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic, and subatomic and galactic structure of things today. And you have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and you will atone!
Am I getting through to you, Mr. Beale? You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM, and ITT, and AT and T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide, and Exxon - those are the nations of the world today. What do you think the Russians talk about in their councils of state - Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories and mini-max solutions and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments just like we do. We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr. Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business. The world is a business, Mr. Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime, and our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock, all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused. And I have chosen you to preach this evangel, Mr. Beale.


Beale goes on the air and says:

Last night, I got up here and asked you people to stand up and fight for your heritage, and you did, and it was beautiful. Six million telegrams were received at the White House. The Arab takeover of CCA has been stopped. The people spoke, the people won. It was a radiant eruption of democracy. But I think that was it, fellas. That sort of thing is not likely to happen again. Because in the bottom of all our terrified souls, we know that democracy is a dying giant, a sick, sick dying, decaying political concept, writhing in its final pain. I don't mean that the United States is finished as a world power. The United States is the richest, the most powerful, the most advanced country in the world, light-years ahead of any other country. And I don't mean the Communists are gonna take over the world because the Communists are deader than we are. What is finished is the idea that this great country is dedicated to the freedom and flourishing of every individual in it. It's the individual that's finished. It's the single, solitary human being that's finished. It's every single one of you out there that's finished. Because this is no longer a nation of independent individuals. It's a nation of some two hundred odd million transistorized, deodorized, whiter-than-white, steel-belted bodies, totally unnecessary as human beings and as replaceable as piston rods. Well, the time has come to say, 'Is dehumanization such a bad word?' Because good or bad, that's what is so. The whole world is becoming humanoid, creatures that look human but aren't. The whole world, not just us. We're just the most advanced country, so we're getting there first. The whole world's people are becoming mass-produced, programmed, numbered, insensate things...

I think this says it all-and is especially approriate at this time of Republican corporate Wall Street greed almost ruining the country and then leaving us the taxpayer, voter and citizen (not to mention many future generations too!) to clean up their greedy MESS!


mech1164
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said by qworster:

I think this says it all-and is especially approriate at this time of Republican corporate Wall Street greed almost ruining the country and then leaving us the taxpayer, voter and citizen (not to mention many future generations too!) to clean up their greedy MESS!
NEWSFLASH!!! This wasn't the Boogie man Repubs who got us here. 2005 when they were still in power and fannie and freddie were blowing up then. They tried to fix it then who stopped them...wait for it.. That's right those good old Dems. These people killed any reform then by killing it in committee. And what came of that both firms making even more bad mortgages to appease the CRA. Give me a break the Repubs are no saints by any means but this was something they tried to fix.

qworster

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NEWSFLASH!! It took YEARS...MANY MORE YEARS then the (less than) two years Democrats have been (barely) in control of Congress to plant the seeds that grew this awful plant! The Republicans had control of the Congress since early 1993 and TOTAL control of the Government from early 2001 until early 2007! The blame for this falls squarely in THEIR lap!

NEWSFLASH!! The reason we had the HUGE gas price increases we have was due to speculation in gas futures. Who FOUGHT for law changes to allow this? Oil man/President GEORGE W. BUSH! He doesn't give two $hit$ about any of us! All he cares about is fattening his and his buddies' wallets!

NEWSFLASH!! The Republicans are NOT out to help anyone but the most elite of their coven, and the sooner the rest of you realize this, the better off the REST of us will all be!

NEWSFLASH!! John McCain claims that he'll "shake things up in Washington". If you believe that, I've got a bridge in NYC I'll sell you-CHEAP! Do you really believe that he'll turn on his Republican buddies? Not gonna happen! It'll be business as usual there. Even worse, he was one of the CAUSES!

Ever hear of the Keating five? Read about it here:

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five

McCain was one of them!


SilverSurfer1

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said by qworster:

NEWSFLASH!! It took YEARS...MANY MORE YEARS then the (less than) two years Democrats have been (barely) in control of Congress to plant the seeds that grew this awful plant!
I can appreciate the sentiment here, but there is nothing noticeably different between Gee Oh Pee white collar criminals and spineless Democrats as they both represent and profit from the same criminal corporate entitities. The Democrats are a just a spineless version of the Republicans.

Both parties want the same thing: Money and lots of it. Don't kid yourself into thinking that the Democrats are some kind of citizen-centric group. LMAO. The only citizens they concern themselves with have the letters "Inc." or "LLC" after its name.

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said by SilverSurfer1:

said by qworster:

NEWSFLASH!! It took YEARS...MANY MORE YEARS then the (less than) two years Democrats have been (barely) in control of Congress to plant the seeds that grew this awful plant!
I can appreciate the sentiment here, but there is nothing noticeably different between Gee Oh Pee white collar criminals and spineless Democrats as they both represent and profit from the same criminal corporate entitities. The Democrats are a just a spineless version of the Republicans.

Both parties want the same thing: Money and lots of it. Don't kid yourself into thinking that the Democrats are some kind of citizen-centric group. LMAO. The only citizens they concern themselves with have the letters "Inc." or "LLC" after its name.
I agree with you-to a point...BUT there's no way in hell that the Republicans (the ones who GAVE us this mess in the first place) should be trusted to dig us out of it!

ANY change would be better then what we have now-and I'm sorry, but I am NOT convinced that John McCain represents any change whatsoever from what we have now AT ALL!

PS: Don't blame ME..I never voted for Bush!


KrK
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said by mech1164:

That's right those good old Dems. These people killed any reform then by killing it in committee.
Bzzzt. Wrong guess. Set the "way back" Machine to 1994, and the Republicans sweeping into power in Congress... riding and waving their "Contract For America" like a baton.

And in that Contract were the seeds of this financial downfall. Deregulation was pushed heavily, and the removal of barriers that prevented financial firms like banks from owning stakes in say auditing firms, brokerage firms, insurance companies, etc etc etc all were happening.

"De-regulate the market!" was the Mantra. Well, the rules, safeguards, and oversights were indeed dropped or weakened... Now jump back to the future and SURPRISE look at the result.
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"Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini

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