Re: Wow... in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21167350 en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:10:13 EDT Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:10:13 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21170841 jc100 : Actually, it's been HIGHLY REGULATED by state laws. THE EDR only serves as ONE of many factors in recreating an accident. ANY CAR with an EDR HAS to disclose that to the owner. Last count 64 percent of cars have them, BUT here's the winner you missed. 36 percent don't and OWNERS HAVE A CHOICE to go with one lacking this unit. So yes, there's a BIG DIFFERENCE. Consumer choice. IE HAVING to OPT IN similar to this article VS being forced to "OPT OUT". SWISH.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21170841 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:28:46 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21169884 dnoyeB : I think telcos got busted for this a few years ago. They actually were selling your calling history to the buying public too. Online no less.

And when I say busted I mean exposed, not punished.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21169884 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:55:35 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21169126 OverModded : EDR data has been accepted as evidence in some courts for both civil & criminal cases. And not in other courts - it depends on the jurisdiction. So my claim that the data is used is correct.
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As for TK junk Mail, NO those black boxes are NOT used at trials. Please cite me proof where they have been? While they are used to recreate an accident (can tell speed and such) MANY older cars DO NOT have them.

»money.cnn.com/2006/08/22/autos/e···ndex.htm

Read this, they are used to reconstruct accidents, but are not a tell tale sign of everything that happened. Matter of fact THEY HAVE TO BE DISCLOSED in the owner manual and MANY states have made laws forbidding / limiting the use of their information in many cases.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21169027 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:57:12 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168540 Baff : VPPA was put in place to protect politicians, it's just luck that it protects the rest of us too.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168540 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:17:21 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168062 funchords : VPPA is a very interesting example! Thanks TK!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168062 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:45:48 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21168009 OverModded :
said by funchords See Profile :

said by OverModded See Profile :

because every industry you do business with does the same thing. Except for video rental places
Is that so? Is that a federal law?
Yes
»epic.org/privacy/vppa/

The HIPAA Act provides the same kind of specific privacy for health providers and insurers. Doctors, dentists, pharmacies, health insurers, hospitals, etc.
»www.hhs.gov/ocr/hipaa/
»aspe.hhs.gov/admnsimp/pl104191.htm
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said by OverModded See Profile :

because every industry you do business with does the same thing. Except for video rental places
Is that so? Is that a federal law?
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167961 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:29:44 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167519 JohnQPublic :
said by OverModded See Profile :

How about because every industry you do business with does the same thing.
Well all righty then. Let's board the "if every other industry does it it must be kosher" train and ride on down the tracks. We know when we let industry leaders do as they wish it all works out just swell.
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said by AVonGauss See Profile :

Levity aside, why the hell do ISPs believe they have a right to sell our usage data? Does that mean a telco or cell provider should be able to sell the numbers you call, how often and then target you for ads?
How about because every industry you do business with does the same thing. Except for video rental places and health providers, which were prohibited by specific laws, your electric company, bank, loan company, electronic store, department store, etc all can sell your info to others for advertising purposes. They all allow OPT_OUT. But none of them have an OPT-IN policy.
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Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167470 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:18:41 EDT Re: Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167350 Sammer :
said by AVonGauss See Profile :

Levity aside, why the hell do ISPs believe they have a right to sell our usage data? Does that mean a telco or cell provider should be able to sell the numbers you call, how often and then target you for ads?
Why you lowly peon don't you understand that the Almighty Dollar is their God.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167350 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:59:37 EDT Wow... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167256 AVonGauss : Congress is considering doing something helpful and useful for the people? Are you sure the facts of the article are correct?

Levity aside, why the hell do ISPs believe they have a right to sell our usage data? Does that mean a telco or cell provider should be able to sell the numbers you call, how often and then target you for ads?

Your call will be connected shortly after a message from our sponsor... Wait, I am the customer, I am the sponsor. If anybody should be selling the data and receiving the profit, it is me.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21167256 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:41:35 EDT