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pnh102
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Re: Who's Picking up the Tab?

said by Matt See Profile :

And as a taxpayer, I certainly would. Isn't democracy grand?
Aside from the fact that we have never lived in a democracy, I must ask, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay for this with the cost, especially when the government isn't legally allowed to be tasked with this project (of course that invalidates about 60% of all federal expenditures)?

There's nothing stopping all of the people who want to make this happen from pooling their own money into a private venture that can make this happen.
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Matt
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :

And as a taxpayer, I certainly would. Isn't democracy grand?
Aside from the fact that we have never lived in a democracy, I must ask, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay for this with the cost, especially when the government isn't legally allowed to be tasked with this project (of course that invalidates about 60% of all federal expenditures)?

There's nothing stopping all of the people who want to make this happen from pooling their own money into a private venture that can make this happen.
Yes, we live in a Republic, but idealistically we are a democracy: »usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/w···tdm2.htm

Anyway, I am burdened with thousands of things I want nothing to do with now. And why are they legally not allowed to get involved? Are you equating their involvement with building the infrastructure? If so, that is remarkably shortsighted. There is a myriad of ways the government can get involved to make this happen.

After all, it took government involvement to make the interstate system and national power grid happen and those have been wildly successful and very reliable.
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pnh102
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said by Matt See Profile :

Yes, we live in a Republic, but idealistically we are a democracy: »usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/w···tdm2.htm
What can I say, if the State Department claims that we are a democracy when the Constitution states that we are a republic, the the State Department is wrong.
said by Matt See Profile :

Anyway, I am burdened with thousands of things I want nothing to do with now.
Well, nothing of this scope can be done in one's spare time. Planning and building something takes dedication and effort. What would have happened if someone like Alexander Graham Bell, Henry Ford or Thomas Edison waited around for the government to do the things they succeeded in doing?
said by Matt See Profile :

And why are they legally not allowed to get involved?
...
After all, it took government involvement to make the interstate system and national power grid happen and those have been wildly successful and very reliable.
The interstate highway system was built under the auspices of national defense. The Constitution grants the government wide latitude to do things under the auspices of national defense.

Building a taxpayer financed content delivery service isn't one of those things.
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Sammer

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

There's nothing stopping all of the people who want to make this happen from pooling their own money into a private venture that can make this happen.
Try it and unless you're an incumbent see how fast you get sued!


SillyRabbit

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :
Aside from the fact that we have never lived in a democracy, I must ask, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay for this with the cost, especially when the government isn't legally allowed to be tasked with this project (of course that invalidates about 60% of all federal expenditures)?
By your logic, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay taxes for the children of other people's education? I know I don't want to be burdened with that crap.


SillyRabbit

@tds.net

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by Matt See Profile :
After all, it took government involvement to make the interstate system and national power grid happen and those have been wildly successful and very reliable.
The interstate highway system was built under the auspices of national defense. The Constitution grants the government wide latitude to do things under the auspices of national defense.

Building a taxpayer financed content delivery service isn't one of those things.
Sure it is.... Wink, wink... Under the auspices of national defense. Dooh!


pnh102
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said by SillyRabbit :

Sure it is.... Wink, wink... Under the auspices of national defense. Dooh!
Yes, it is.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal-Ai···_of_1956
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pnh102
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said by Sammer See Profile :

Try it and unless you're an incumbent see how fast you get sued!
Do it privately.

I thank companies who sue governments who waste money on this BS.
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pnh102
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said by SillyRabbit :

By your logic, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay taxes for the children of other people's education? I know I don't want to be burdened with that crap.
Exactly!
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Matt
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said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by SillyRabbit :

By your logic, why burden the taxpayers who don't want to pay taxes for the children of other people's education? I know I don't want to be burdened with that crap.
Exactly!


I suggest you go buy an island.
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pbarrow
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You are paying for it all anyway.
How many price increase has your ISP had in recent years? Or are you new to the internet?
In 2001 when Charter bought out AT&T @home I was paying 29.95 for 3M - then it went to 39.95 - then 5Meg came along and it went to 41.95 then 44.95 - and that's with me owning my own modem.

I would rather have Gov involved in the expansion and maybe regulating and limiting prices than the ISP bilking me with bi-annual and annual prices increases and decreasing performance and capacity problems.

I'm quite happy have the Public Service Commission regulate ATT here. My phone bill has only increase a couple of $ in 8 years and I've only had phone service go out 2 times.
Sure can't say the same for my Cable service.
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