Extremely Slow Network Printing in Networking http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21172670 en Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:20:47 EDT Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:20:47 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21195238 RWild : So now I am set upon by comedians! ;)

Did I mention that I used to annihilate matter for a living? Never met an anti-particle that I couldn't convert to pure energy but never got the anti-matter beam weapon working.

Actually, there may be something to your post. I have two Phasers (7300DN, and 8550DN) and you can install drivers by accessing their web interfaces. There have been indications that you don't necessarily get the latest drivers for your OS that way. Maybe need to do a direct D/L from the Xerox site.

Something else to try next time I'm at home savoring the aroma of the radon from my piece of K-65 ore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21195238 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:24:41 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193878 fox7 : RWild:
If you will permit one more addition...

Some one was commenting earlier about EXACT problem, so I didn't comment at that time, but will now hoping this could be a possible solution.

No crawling involved!!

We have a Phased 3500N in our environment, set not on 'stun', but 'disable' for that commenter. :) (That was a joke)

The problem is not exactly like yours, slow printing, but it just fell off the screen and was not shown to be present on two machines I had installed it on. Yet it remained on several other machines I had installed it on.

I re-installed the printer and that was my fix and I suggest that to you. Re-install the printer!!

Go to the 'Printers folder' under the 'Start menu' and remove the 7500 Phaser from you printer list. Then click on 'File' on the Menu bar in the Printer folder, choose Server Properties, choose the Drivers tab and Remove the driver from that machine.

Now you can go for a clean re-install of the 7500DN Phaser.

If this resolves your problem, you can pay homage if you choose... but might be bad on the knees! :)

fox7]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193878 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:16:33 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193794 RWild : I WAS at the location when I started the thread. I do what I can with the time I have at home.

I would say that the useful life of this thread has been reached.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193794 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:00:16 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193639 ChiTang :
said by RWild See Profile :

I am not sure that it has registered yet that I am no longer in the same physical location as the network/printer and will not be for some days.

I do appreciate your suggestions but please do not expect any feedback for some time.
I certainly am not going to lose any sleep over it.
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For a person who asks for help to troubleshoot a network problem while he is not at the location is just a bit tough (that is the best word I can come up with).
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I do appreciate your suggestions but please do not expect any feedback for some time.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193557 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:17:46 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21193064 ChiTang : Don't get me wrong, I am not displeased. To me, without a fedback, I cannot continue.

Your problem is not printing, it prints, it is the performance of printing (too slow).

You are not witch hunting here cos it was fine b4 and it is not now.

You did have some feedback about 192.168.1.X and TCP/IP is active and fixed IP for printer. The point is, if you can print, TCP/IP has to be active, IP has to be in the same subnet. It does not help to narrow down your problem.

As you have so many switches cascading together, a network layout will show which link is likely to be the point of failure. Since you are in a condition that deos not allow you to do so, we can try other things without heavy lifting.

1. Change the cable between Xeror and switch
2. Use the port in the switch.
3. Reset the switch.
4. As suggested, print from a PC that is using the same switch and C if the speed is the same or faster.


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Although I was being facetious about being hospitalized, I indicated in my original reply to you that the type of physical activity necessary and a schedule that allows me infrequent time at home made it impossible to act on your suggests this past trip home.

I cannot quite bring myself to be sorry if this displeases you, as it apparently does.

I DO appreciate ALL of the suggestions people have made. It appears that rewiring the network, or at least part of it, is going to be necessary to make progress. That will have to wait.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21192688 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:59:48 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21192289 ChiTang :
said by RWild See Profile :

I really wish I could give you a picture but I would have to be hospitalized if I moved all of the furniture and crawled around under tables to get the information to draw an accurate picture before I have to go back to work in another state. Didn't bring the pain pills this trip.
Fair enough for mature individual with a medical condition, do you have kids?

There is no feedback for the suggestions from others. So I am not sure whether you are looking for a suggestion that you can manage or a suggestion that you accept or simply ignore suggestion that you deem irrelevant.

At least a feedback, like

I did this but didn't work
I could't do this bcos I didn't have that.
I didn't do this cos I didn't apply as far as I am concerned.

This is needed during troubleshooting.
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said by daveinpoway See Profile :

If the router supports this (many do, but probably not all), I have found it to be just as effective to have the host device acquire its IP address via DHCP and then reserve an IP address (that always corresponds to the host device's MAC address) within the router. All my stuff is set up this way, and I haven't noticed any issues.
My router does support this and I do reserve the printer IPs, once the router assigns them. When I worked full-time from home and had several ethernet printers, it was pretty much a necessity.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21191067 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:58:59 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21190682 daveinpoway : If the router supports this (many do, but probably not all), I have found it to be just as effective to have the host device acquire its IP address via DHCP and then reserve an IP address (that always corresponds to the host device's MAC address) within the router. All my stuff is set up this way, and I haven't noticed any issues.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21190682 Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:31:32 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21188510 fox7 : RWild:
Do you have that printer on a Static IP??? Assigned within the 7300 Phaser's set up AND designated with the Router/NAT device??]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21188510 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:23:07 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21176491 ChiTang : When you expand your network by adding cascading switches (easy and cheap way to accomplish), it is OK. The drawback is that when a problem occurs (espicially speed/performance problem), the troubleshooting is tough.

If you don't want to move furnitures, lift heavy objects, at least do some troubleshooting by segments within your lan.
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said by Matt See Profile :

It isn't fun, but unless someone comes along who has had this exact issue, you're going to have to perform a bit of troubleshooting.
This is the really frustrating part. I'm only home a couple of days every couple of weeks and crawling around under tables and desk takes a serious tool on this old, fat, arthritic body.

Gravity is a bring-down.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21175166 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:57:02 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174468 ChiTang : There is so many tell tell signs to narrow it down.

Is it slow on first page only?
When printing multiple pages, does the subsequent pages print fast?

If the cable for Xerox is not at 100 mbit, performance may suck. It could be bad cable or bad ports (switch or Xeror) or ports are not negotiated properly.

Send a print job to the Xerox from a PC in the same segment of the Xeror and if it is distinctively faster.
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said by RWild See Profile :

I used to have one computer connected to it by parallel cable and it worked normally then. It's not connect that way now. Of course, at one time it worked great with all the computers in the house via ethernet.
I'd like to see a test of a computer connected directly to it. The network card could be going bad, or the printer itself could be going bad. Hooking a computer directly to it would isolate a big potion of what the problem may (or may not) be.

If a computer hooked directly to it works fine, try sharing the printer from the computer attached to it and see what the result of that is.

It isn't fun, but unless someone comes along who has had this exact issue, you're going to have to perform a bit of troubleshooting.
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I have lots of stuff scattered across four rooms. Two computers in the bedroom, five and a printer server in the study, a Slingbox in the living room, and four computers and three ethernet printers in the home office. I used to work from home but am now a road warrior.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174336 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:10:14 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174281 Matt :
said by RWild See Profile :

No. The 7300 has not always had this problem either.
Hrmmm, could it be the network interface going bad? If you hook a parallel cable directly to the printer does it exhibit the same symptoms?
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Only TCP/IP is active.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174196 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:46:27 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174182 RWild : Yes, everything is on 192.168.1.x]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21174182 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:44:00 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173619 fox7 : Ping it's IP and tell use what the times are.

fox7

and I like ChiTang suggestion also.

Edit: Ya know... Those printers come with all protocols active. I would turn off all except TCP/IP, if that is what you are using.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173619 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:01:47 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173274 avd706 : Try setting it to stun...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173274 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 14:05:28 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173208 Matt : Is the phaser attached directly to the network?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173208 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:56:39 EDT Re: Extremely Slow Network Printing http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21173014 ChiTang :
said by RWild See Profile :

Is the topology my problem?
It could be, with a picture is easier to tell.

Since you have so many switches, if one of the link between switches is not up to speed. The performance in that segment degrades.

How many devices do you have that requires 4 more switches to the router?

To isolate if the Xeror is the problem, just add a local printer to one of the PCs in the same segment of the Xeror, share it, print from another PC that is 4 switches away and time it.
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One computer has to go through two switches (B and A) to get to the router and two more (A and B) to get to the printer. I believe another goes switch (A) router switch (B)printer.

Is the topology my problem?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21172670 Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:24:01 EDT