Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21180389 en Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:59:18 EDT Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:59:18 EDT Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21187587 funchords : Okay, I didn't read that before.

Not Internet Protocol networks are part of the Internet. Further, not all IPTV-enabled STBs are strictly doing IPTV (some -- perhaps most still -- do both IP digital and analog).

Since the Standard STB receives its info from a "managed broadband network" and not the internet, why does it not qualify as IPTV ?
It probably would, based on Gartner's definition. That's a goofy definition, since it rules out content delivered over the Internet.

It doesn't sound right to me, but I've no experience with IPTV and had always assumed it was digital video thru internet connected to a STB ?
Many (perhaps most) have digital and analog channels. I think that Comcast finally went all-digital on the STB only in the past 1-2 years (in my area, at least, since I was getting RF ghosting as recently as 2 years ago).
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21187587 Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:41:42 EDT Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21184321 Codacious :
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The majority of us would rather have root canal than go through the fuss of changing ISPs, but we will do it if the advance is compelling enough.
Usually with that "advance" comes an extra price. With the market the way it is, most co. are worried about downgrades and loosing customers. I can imagine some "advances" are just to good to pass up if the price isn't exsorbant. ;)
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I doubt it. Mine has an IP, too, but it's never stopped the cable box from being a cable box.
Not following ? The title Statement is "Gartner defines IPTV as a managed broadband network which delivers high picture-quality television and video content to a user's TV set via a set-top box". I wasn't sure if that qualified as IPTV but the last sentence states "Content delivered over the Internet or only to a computer is not included." Since the Standard STB receives its info from a "managed broadband network" and not the internet, why does it not qualify as IPTV ?
It doesn't sound right to me, but I've no experience with IPTV and had always assumed it was digital video thru internet connected to a STB ?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21184321 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:07:07 EDT Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21180535 funchords :
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Are people really trying to save money by doing less spending at leisure activities and sitting at home watching more of the boob tube (or monitor) and creating this demand,
We've had a rash of restaurant closing. The dinner business has really dropped off, people are sitting at home.
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or is it because of better and higher quality content that's become available ?
With the amount of companies going under every week, do you really think the one that spends their money on upgrade will win ?
Yes.

The majority of us would rather have root canal than go through the fuss of changing ISPs, but we will do it if the advance is compelling enough.

Few of us stuck with dial-up for more than a few months once given the chance to go to broadband.

said by Codacious See Profile :

On the subject at hand, every digital STB I've played with has an IP, so is this part of the fuss that Gartner defines as IPTV ?
I doubt it. Mine has an IP, too, but it's never stopped the cable box from being a cable box.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21180535 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:40:47 EDT Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21180389 Codacious :
We are in the middle of a demand spurt, and what should follow ought to be a growth spurt.
Don't you think that's going to take a little more time ?
Every time I catch a glimpse of the news, it's always about how bad the economy is (for where we live). Are people really trying to save money by doing less spending at leisure activities and sitting at home watching more of the boob tube (or monitor) and creating this demand, or is it because of better and higher quality content that's become available ?
With the amount of companies going under every week, do you really think the one that spends their money on upgrade will win ?
On the subject at hand, every digital STB I've played with has an IP, so is this part of the fuss that Gartner defines as IPTV ? If so... old news :huh:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21180389 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 23:55:43 EDT Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21179353 funchords :
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said by pandora See Profile :

I've got DirecTV DVR's and download a bunch of stuff over Internet to watch on my TV sets. It looks like Comcast implemented their caps just in time.

Legal video over Internet is going to crunch some ISP's, will Comcast's neighborhood of 100 homes sharing a 30-40mb download pipe really be viable if 5-10% of those homes are downloading video content?
No. Hence the justifiable use of a cap or the eventual switch to bill-by-byte.
Or upgrade -- fast!

TK, you don't seem to remember your history.

The move toward video on the net is not much different than what happened when the network added images -- when web surfing replaced text-based surfing based on Gopher.

Images on the web dragged the net to a crawl!

In 1995, fully 90% of web users told Georgia Tech's Graphic, Visualization, & Usability Center that speed was their number one issue. By 1996, that had dropped to 76%, and by 1997 it was 66%. Why? Because technology improved.

We are in the middle of a demand spurt, and what should follow ought to be a growth spurt. We've been here before. Companies that spend their money to meet it are going to win. Companies that make futile attempts to stop it are just fighting progress.

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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21179353 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:30:36 EDT Re: Clarification on what Gartner calls IPTV http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21178452 pandora :
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No. Hence the justifiable use of a cap or the eventual switch to bill-by-byte.
I'm waiting to see if Comcast basic speeds increase by early next year. If they go up to 8 down and 1 or 2 up, I may be ready to sign up for the business starter as it'd cost about what I'm paying now. It'd get me away from caps. Though I'm not certain if I'd avoid being throttled.
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said by pandora See Profile :

I've got DirecTV DVR's and download a bunch of stuff over Internet to watch on my TV sets. It looks like Comcast implemented their caps just in time.

Legal video over Internet is going to crunch some ISP's, will Comcast's neighborhood of 100 homes sharing a 30-40mb download pipe really be viable if 5-10% of those homes are downloading video content?
No. Hence the justifiable use of a cap or the eventual switch to bill-by-byte.
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Legal video over Internet is going to crunch some ISP's, will Comcast's neighborhood of 100 homes sharing a 30-40mb download pipe really be viable if 5-10% of those homes are downloading video content?
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Gartner defines IPTV as a managed broadband network which delivers high picture-quality television and video content to a user's TV set via a set-top box. Content delivered over the Internet or only to a computer is not included.
Gartner has narrowly defined what they mean by IPTV - only shows delivered to STBs attached to a TV.
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