fiberguy
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1 edit | Don't like it....?
.... don't buy it! Plain and simple.
Stop feeling entitled. There are other ISPs and plenty of competition to warrant Sprint's desires. It's new, it's wireless, and I think they're smart to do so.
Why is it that every single connection out there, people feel the need to jam and clog it full of so much un-necessary crap anyway?
People, mainly Americans, do NOT know the meaning of restraint, moderation, and not consuming everything in site like locust. |
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funchords
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| said by fiberguy  :It's new, it's wireless, and I think they're smart to do so. I think this is a legitimate reason to place some early technical limits while the service gets off the ground -- perhaps including some temporary restrictions on protocols until the provider is comfortable that they will behave okay on the medium.
I don't see that happening, though. The other big names set their 5 GB caps quite a while ago, they're not going up. Nobody is testing to see whether some of the restricted uses need to be restricted at all.
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | I'm not sure what you mean when you say "needs to be restricted". it's their network and they want to restrict it, they shouldn't need to demonstrate that it's "needed". |
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a333
A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY | Of course, cell companies shouldn't EVER be held accountable for their "network management" policies.... the horror, the horror..... |
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jester121
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| said by a333 :Of course, cell companies shouldn't EVER be held accountable for their "network management" policies.... the horror, the horror..... You're right, it's much better to let consumers do anything they want without regard for how it affects other users.  |
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funchords
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| reply to beaups
said by beaups :I'm not sure what you mean when you say "needs to be restricted". it's their network and they want to restrict it, they shouldn't need to demonstrate that it's "needed". Again, don't call it "Internet" and block/throttle/restrict it. That's not Internet.
And if you have a problem with my position, come to my gas station and I'll give you some "Unleaded" (50% water).
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NetAdmin
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With no reason given for restricting transfer usage, the reasons amount to childish reason of "because I can." Legitimate technical reasons like backhaul bandwidth shortages, interconnect bandwidth shortages or other possible problems with a wireless network would make their claim much more reasonable and easier to swallow.
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chicago_dsl
@sbcglobal.net | reply to fiberguy
So true.. After all it is a consumer based society. What would you expect?
I got a feeling that "unlimited" branded service will make a comeback, but I promise you it will cost you a lot more than you are paying now.. My 2 cents.. |
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LineNoise
join:2006-06-25
Bolingbrook, IL
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| reply to fiberguy
I agree...
How in the hell much stuff do you people download? I mean, I'm all for "Unlimited" also, but my god, I download everything and anything I want and I've NEVER used more then 20 gigs in a month. I'd be surprised if I used near that.
I don't agree with it, if they don't disclose it. It's their network, let them do what they want. My modem is on order, hopefully the network will be turned on real soon here in Chicago. |
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a333
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Rego Park, NY | reply to jester121
The same way it's SURELY ok to let ISP's make up excuses for not improving their networks.... fail..........=\ |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to funchords
It was called the internet back when we were restricted by 14.4K modems, is it worse now? |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
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why would they give you a reason??? If they came in and changed the TOS after the fact, and you are under contract, then I agree you are entitled to a reason. But not in this case. Why does car X cost $45K? Why does a 12 pack of pepsi cost $1.99 sometimes and $3.99 other times? Because they made the product and they feel like it. They have their reasons and, frankly, it's none of our business "why". |
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
| said by beaups :They have their reasons and, frankly, it's none of our business "why". As a customer, it IS my business why. If I'm going to spend my money with a company, I should be able to know the hows and whys of the product, its pricing and its policies before I purchase. That is all part of the research that goes into "Buyer Beware".
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funchords
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said by beaups :It was called the internet back when we were restricted by 14.4K modems, is it worse now? Come back when you're not twisting the meaning of the word, "restricted."
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
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this is where I disagree. they are running a business. It's not a democracy. When you buy a pair of shoes, do you ask why the cost? why are they black? why don't they use different materials? why are they made in china? NO. what is the secret formula of coca cola? none of your (or mine) business either.
so...as long as they disclose the limitations, I don't believe they have ANY obligation to disclose WHY. |
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NetAdmin
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join:2008-05-22
| said by beaups :this is where I disagree. they are running a business. It's not a democracy. Interesting... So what is all of that shareholder voting about, ehh?
so...as long as they disclose the limitations, I don't believe they have ANY obligation to disclose WHY.
If "because we can" is the best answer providers can come up with, then they should expect people to complain. Because in reality, "because we can" is a crap reason for doing anything. Period.
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH
| reply to chicago_dsl
As a consumer what entitles you to this information? Call Coke and ask them for their recipe, what do you think they'll tell you? "None of your business". If that's unacceptable then don't buy it.
I cannot understand why so many feel that it's their RIGHT to know "why" these companies do what they do. These are corporations, and they are not a democracy. |
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beaups
join:2003-08-11
Hilliard, OH | reply to NetAdmin
Shareholder voting is VERY different from a democracy. At any rate, by some Sprint stock and "vote"... |
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