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| A new survey conducted by International Data Corporation on behalf of Zeugma Systems I wonder how much Zeugma paid to have that study done? If it was more than $5, they were taken to the cleaners.
But at least this explains why they are interested in caps and the monitoring of customer broadband usage:
»www.zeugmasystems.com/default.aspx
Zeugma Systems is a supplier of carrier-grade, open telecommunications systems that allow broadband service providers to identify, monitor, manage, and customize traffic flows on a per-service, per-subscriber level.
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Franklin, TN | said by fAcEtIOUs:A new survey conducted by International Data Corporation on behalf of Zeugma Systems I wonder how much Zeugma paid to have that study done? If it was more than $5, they were taken to the cleaners. But at least this explains why they are interested in caps and the monitoring of customer broadband usage: » www.zeugmasystems.com/default.aspxZeugma Systems is a supplier of carrier-grade, open telecommunications systems that allow broadband service providers to identify, monitor, manage, and customize traffic flows on a per-service, per-subscriber level. Paid to have the study done or paid those that were involved in the study? 
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:I wonder how much Zeugma paid to have that study done? If it was more than $5, they were taken to the cleaners. And why do you say that? Because the study discovered the obvious?
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Core0000Premium
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I'd pay more, if I felt like I was getting a good value. And by value I don't mean a bunch of add on crap.
-Solid Reliability (None of this.. on and off connection crap for 30 minutes)
-No Caps
-Symmetrical 3 megs up 3 megs down.
I'd be will to pay 45.00 for that. |
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
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kudos:3 | reply to Matt
I have a way to summarize this summary:
"People hate to pay for anything."
Now.. where do I collect my poll money?
Really,.. the obvious is people would rather not have to pay. However, we have choices.. we can be socialists, we can be communist, or we can be capitalist. What would you prefer? The market works best when there are freedoms. The freedom doesn't mean to have what ever you want, it means you have the freedom to buy what you want in your means. This is the part that people HATE to hear (reality).. not everyone is going to be able to have what others do. Some people make more than others for a variety of reasons and if they made that money legally, so be it.
To think that anyone would believe they are entitled to have what someone else does "to be fare" is simply fantasy. The pure fact is that some people won't be able to have or afford what others do, plain and simple.
So yea.. the obvious is simple - no one wants to be told what they can and can't have with the amount of money available to them. The obvious is that MOST everyone wants to drive nice cars and own nice living spaces.. truth is, .. ain't gonna happen in ANY lifetime. |
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There's no true Capitalist or Communist governments and nor will there be as they are based on ideals that fail when exposed to actual reality.
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Agreed... I pay more for real value that gives me something more than I have now.
I just paid $30 for the luxury of 4" more legroom on an already reasonably roomy JetBlue flight because I was flying cross country and wanted the extra room to cross my legs.
Most consumers don't mind paying for things that give them a perceived return on their money. (Hello - casinos and bottled water.)
What does get us all bent out of shape is being charged more for the same thing we're already getting. Or even worse being charged more for less than we're already getting.
With caps that's exactly where we are headed - higher bills for less service.
If they're going to go metered or capped, what I would rather see is a fully metered system like we have with most public utilities (water, power, etc.). The cablecos are avoiding that like the plague because it means 1) they would be admitting they have a commodity product, 2) many of their customers would actually see lower bills, and 3) the cablecos would actually have to deploy audited and certified measuring systems like we have w/ power and gas meters today.
I think it would be reasonable to pay a $5/mo base connection charge and then have full access to use the available bits as I see fit. They can then bill me by the GB just like my power company bills me by the kW. If I don't use it, it only costs me $5. If I blow the connection up with Bittorrent traffic, I get a bill commensurate to my usage.
The carriers are loathe to go down that road because it means they will have given into being labeled as dumb pipes.
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| said by davoice:.....I think it would be reasonable to pay a $5/mo base connection charge and then have full access to use the available bits as I see fit. They can then bill me by the GB just like my power company bills me by the kW. If I don't use it, it only costs me $5..... You people kill me!!! Don't you get it? Internet is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT like a power or gas bill!! Other people from around the world CANNOT surge your power line or use up your gas line! With your internet connection ANYONE FROM AROUND THE WORLD CAN send you unwanted packets of data and USE your connection. What does that mean? YOU PAY for packets you didn't want, and probably don't even know about (blocked by router/firewall).
Get it through your heads people! Internet is NOT the same usage as a utility and CANNOT be billed as such!
Bill-by-the-byte will destroy the internet. Way to go ComCRAP, you just put yourself out of business! |
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
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kudos:12 | People can tap your power line or attach to your water spigot. So yes, it is similar.
It's also pretty easy for a utility to see if someone is flooding you with bogus traffic, so I don't think that is a valid argument.
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1 edit | What do you mean utility?
Your talking about the internet providers?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
If they were a utility, we wouldn't be having this discussion, let alone the whole news article.
It sure is a lot harder for someone to tap my electricity or my water spigot. For starters, they would have to be my neighbor. Thats one (maybe two) people you have to deal with. And if they really are stealing from you, you have bigger problems to deal with. Edit: Set up a camera; problem solved and your bill stays as it should. Sorry, not the same.
On the other hand, if you make someone pissed off playing your favorite video game or your work competition uses ComCRAP business cable they could write a nice little virus to generate fake traffic to your network. It would be coming from everywhere at random intervals and to the ISP it would only look like an increase of traffic; not a direct attack (by attack I mean by increasing your bill to strain your pocketbook/company finances; not a computer attack/hack/exploit). |
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That's funny, because business-class service sometimes has usage charges. |
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