Re: hmm

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battleop join:2005-09-28 00000	reply to davidl Re: hmm A little math for you. What's cheaper to wire? An area the size of the United States or an area the size of Montana.
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	Pffff...they also have 1/3 the population of North America and less than 1/3 of the GDP. I'd pay $2,000/$3,000 up front for gigabit access to an internet connected network that's not interfered with by the telcos/cablecos and their ulterior motives of trying to charge me by the byte like minutes on a cell phone.
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battleop join:2005-09-28 00000	They also have an urban population density of 12,500 people per square mile where we have 2,900 people per square mile. In our current economy you try and sell your neighbors on spending $2-3k plus monthly recurring for a connection that they will not even use 10% of.
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	Yeah, until there's some 'gottahaveit' service developed...then there'll be a stampede. Unfortunately, the 'gottahaveit' service won't get developed because the telcos/cablecos want us to keep watching their crappy TV. And it's not like it has to be started from scratch...a lot of the infrastructure is already there.
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fAcEtIOUs Premium join:2002-03-03 kudos:4	said by davidl: Unfortunately, the 'gottahaveit' service won't get developed because the telcos/cablecos want us to keep watching their crappy TV. And exactly what great video is developed FOR the internet that is better than that on "crappy TV"? Nothing I have seen(YouTube uploads by idiot slackers with time on their hands?). The video on the internet that people watch are the same shows that are on TV. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	reply to battleop said by battleop: A little math for you. What's cheaper to wire? An area the size of the United States or an area the size of Montana. Explan why the state of Rhode Island can only average 6.7 Mbps then instead of 100 Mbps? Because Rhode Island is 1/150 the size of Japan and has 20% more people per suqare mile. So this whole "the US is big and that's why we don't have the speeds" excuse is crap. We can't even do our smallest state which is in fact smaller than many COUNTIES.
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs: said by davidl: Unfortunately, the 'gottahaveit' service won't get developed because the telcos/cablecos want us to keep watching their crappy TV. And exactly what great video is developed FOR the internet that is better than that on "crappy TV"? Nothing I have seen(YouTube uploads by idiot slackers with time on their hands?). The video on the internet that people watch are the same shows that are on TV. Here's the deal, if everything I could watch on TV was on the internet then I could cancel my cable and save $60+ a month.
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	reply to fAcEtIOUs One man's trash is another man's treasure. Maybe some of us like the YouTube videos made by the slackers...they pose a different worldview other than that of the MainstreamMedia a.k.a. MSM
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fAcEtIOUs Premium join:2002-03-03 kudos:4	reply to BF69 said by BF69: said by fAcEtIOUs: said by davidl: Unfortunately, the 'gottahaveit' service won't get developed because the telcos/cablecos want us to keep watching their crappy TV. And exactly what great video is developed FOR the internet that is better than that on "crappy TV"? Nothing I have seen(YouTube uploads by idiot slackers with time on their hands?). The video on the internet that people watch are the same shows that are on TV. Here's the deal, if everything I could watch on TV was on the internet then I could cancel my cable and save $60+ a month. That is a nice dream. But then the cost of internet access rises because someone has to pay to develop those shows. And if it isn't the cable companies TV arms, then the internet arms will pay for it. Maybe, if things work that way, you drop your TV bill from $60 to $0, but your internet bill will go up $40 or $50/mo. -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page Ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?' Well, do ya punk?
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battleop join:2005-09-28 00000	reply to BF69 If there are no excuses when can we expect you to start offering 1Gbps service to the people of Rhode Island?
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	reply to fAcEtIOUs We don't have to pay for YouTube...it's called 'Advertising'
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs: That is a nice dream. But then the cost of internet access rises because someone has to pay to develop those shows. And if it isn't the cable companies TV arms, then the internet arms will pay for it. Maybe, if things work that way, you drop your TV bill from $60 to $0, but your internet bill will go up $40 or $50/mo. Please. That's like saying if I ditch cable for a rooftop antenna the cost of antennas will have to go up to compensate for the decreased revenues to the networks.
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	reply to fAcEtIOUs Yeah, but if your Telephone, Internet, TV all come through the one connection, it's still gonna save a bundle
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BF69 Premium join:2004-07-28 Camden, TN	reply to battleop said by battleop: If there are no excuses when can we expect you to start offering 1Gbps service to the people of Rhode Island? That's just stupid. The point is people say Japan can have 1 Gbps internet and we can't because Japan is much smaller and has more people per sq mile than the US. Well RI is even small and has more people per sq mile than Japan so where is the 1 Gbps or even 100 Mbps connections in RI? besides the size of the US has nothing to do with nothing. What do you peole think there's one wire going form Maine to San Diego and one from Seattle to Miami and another form NY to LA? The vast majority of the US empty space and no one is suggesting spending money on providing broadband access to places where there isn't any people.
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	Exactly...and how the hell can they make a long distance telephone call from Maine to San Diego now?...somebody must've got off his butt and ran a line down there
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james join:2001-02-26 CWCville USA	reply to BF69 I hate to agree with TK, but if everyone did get rid of cable the networks would lose their main revenue stream. But, the great thing is that that's the way business works. They can either adapt and find a new way to make money off of us, so they can keep making their crappy sitcoms and reality tv shows, or they can go out of business. The tv shows that people actually like will get far more viewers now, instead of shows being shoved down our throat because they're on before/after the show we came to watch.
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Desdinova Premium join:2003-01-26 Gaithersburg, MD	reply to fAcEtIOUs Actually, web production is the new big trend with lots of production companies scrambling to create content to host on their own sites or distribute via various file sharing methods (specifically bit torrent). Product placement is paying the costs and companies are lining up to pay for placement in productions; yet another reason the ISP's are fighting to avoid becoming dumb pipes. I'm sure Comcast isn't happy supplying the pipeline for a thousand potential indie broadcasts that they (Comcast) won't see any profits on other than bandwidth-related. Granted, the number of web productions is scant right now, but the with no restrictions or models for length or content (Disney has one such show that "airs" daily with each episode running only ninety seconds) and with high-end video gear cheaper and more readily available than ever before, the next year should prove VERY interesting for original entertainment content available exclusively online.
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funchords Hello Premium,MVM join:2001-03-11 Yarmouth Port, MA kudos:5	reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs: Maybe, if things work that way, you drop your TV bill from $60 to $0, but your internet bill will go up $40 or $50/mo. Right! That's worth doing. The cable network is being shoehorned into a digital mode. It would be so much better if we designed the network for digital data from the ground up. The cable companies don't need to marry themselves to cable. Every city, town, and village ought to be laying fiber and open the market to all ISPs that wants to serve it. -- Robb Topolski -= funchords.com =- Hillsboro, Oregon More features, more fun, Join BroadbandReports.com, it's free...
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aaronwt Premium join:2004-11-07 Woodbridge, VA Reviews: ·Verizon FiOS	reply to davidl said by davidl: We don't have to pay for YouTube...it's called 'Advertising' YouTube?! the quality is crap on YouTube.
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davidl join:2008-07-11 Vaudreuil-Dorion, QC	Maybe it'd get better if it was served up on a Gbps connection?
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