DrModem
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join:2006-10-19
USA | reply to sturmvogel
Re: Where is the leadership in this country?
While getting rid of the other stuff.
Like free speech and all that.
No thanks, I don't need internet that badly. |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX
| If you like Lawrence Lessig here's another great reason to support Obama's campaign: They went directly to Lessig with their technology policy to get his feedback. This strongly suggests that in an Obama administration, Lessig or Lessig-minded people would be in charge of federal technology policy. Us "Internet Culture" people have been wandering in the wilderness this whole time, and in 2009 we could be *running* federal policy. Now that's something to hope for!
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Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
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sturmvogel
Obama '08
join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX | reply to DrModem
Sure. Vote McCain and yet get no Internet and no free speech. |
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trebzon
join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI | reply to sturmvogel
Dude I don't believe a word Obama says. His pre-election statements will not mean diddly once he is in office. By the way I feel the same about McCain. Neither of them will do squat to "fix" anything. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
 ·Comcast
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said by sturmvogel  :Sure. Vote McCain and yet get no Internet and no free speech. Really?
You mean John McCain is going to turn off the Internet and put us in jail for disagreeing with him? Maybe he can borrow tactics from the Missouri branch of the Hussein Truth Squad.
»www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGL···th+squad
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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This is to assume, as so many do, that the President of the United States is THE one that sets the laws as we live by. SOOO many people forget that the House and Senate are the ones that shape laws in this country, not the President; he simply signs them. Even void of his desire to sign them, with the right amount of votes, as we should know, laws can pass with out the President anyway.
So, when people come here and say "vote for this President because he or she will give us X" I just laugh... When I went to school, I was taught that there are 3 branches of government, not the 1 single one so many people look at.
I hope for an entire government that puts country first over personal agenda or party movements. When ever someone talks about "party".. they are talking about a portion of Americans, not all.
And personally, I don't want a "federal policy" when it comes to broadband.. I'd rather leave it up to the States, where most of "America's Business" needs to be in the first place.. or, simply get rid of the state borders and make this country a single state nation like so many politicians are trying to do. |
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fiberguy
My views are my own.
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join:2005-05-20
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said by sturmvogel :Sure. Vote McCain and yet get no Internet and no free speech. FUD anyone?
Can we PLEASE keep politics where it belongs? I'm sure Obama would be very pleased to know you're bringing messages he wants hear to Broadband Report.com. |
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knightmb
Everybody Lies
join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN
 ·AT&T DSL Service
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The fallacy with that argument is that everyone assumes that once whoever becomes president; has magical powers to do anything they want. On the contrary, the congress and senate is where the action takes place. The President has evolved into the complaints department in this country. So that's basically why everyone like to blame/complain to the President about anything and everything.
So at least it's better to have someone in a position to try than someone in position who just doesn't care or know anything about technology *cough Bush* 
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trebzon
join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI
·AT&T Yahoo
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Re: Where is the leadership in this country?
I hear what you say but you must have federal over-site for utility infrastructure from a standards and safety standpoint. I also agree with the states comments to some extent though. What we have now is a federally mandated policy of no policy. Either put a logical policy in place or abdicate and let the states step in. |
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dissapointed
@charter.com | reply to sturmvogel
yea and vote obama and see him sell this country the rest of the way out,or worse eliminated |
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trebzon
join:2001-09-03
Grandville, MI
·AT&T Yahoo
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I don't disagree at all about congress. The Republic Congress was a joke that turned its back on its principles and the Democrat one is no different.
A President leads. He doesn't make law but leads. Bush did some of that but many would argue poorly. I think McCain would do some of that too but I am uncomfortable how. I don't believe Obama will lead squat. He doesn't take a stand unless it is wildly popular. I don't see him leading at all.
Then again look at the choices. What a crappy year. |
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pnh102
Reptiles Are Cuddly And Pretty
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join:2002-05-02
Mount Airy, MD
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said by knightmb :So at least it's better to have someone in a position to try than someone in position who just doesn't care or know anything about technology *cough Bush* Broadband deployment is much more widespread now than it was in 2001.
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
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said by sturmvogel :Sure. Vote McCain and yet get no Internet and no free speech. McCain has same views as bush. we don't need four more years of that. that said i'm not for obama either.
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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said by pnh102 :Broadband deployment is much more widespread now than it was in 2001. If anyone wants some indirect proof of that try going dial-up for a couple days. All these new AJAX like technologies that most websites use suck over dial up. |
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Combat Chuck
Too Many Cannibals
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join:2001-11-29
Erie, PA
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said by knightmb :So at least it's better to have someone in a position to try than someone in position who just doesn't care or know anything about technology *cough Bush* Like Obama tried when he was in Congress...you know all those times he tried by voting "present". |
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redhatnation
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join:2005-06-02
Woodbridge, VA
·Comcast
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said by DrModem :While getting rid of the other stuff. Like free speech and all that. No thanks, I don't need internet that badly. Where are you reading that? |
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to fiberguy
Re: Where is the leadership in this country?
You are correct, the President of the United States cannot make laws.
HOWEVER, in this day of partisan politics, he can get a few sympathetic members of either the House or Senate to introduce a law he would like to have.
Another thing to look at is the polls. Most of this country thinks the President is doing a bad job. (Whether or not you agree with this is another matter altogether.) Congress has an even lower approval rating right now. Now, the President is a single person. Congress is an entity of about 535 people so they get to spread that blame and point fingers.
As for broadband policies, while there should be SOME controls, I think providers should be allowed to build in areas that are already serviced by others. |
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DaMaGeINC
The Lan Man
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join:2002-06-08
Greenville, SC
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Pure speculation. |
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