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First you accuse me of not reading my TOS (when you knew damn well that I likely had read it) and then you call me "self-serving" for pointing that out.
I'm glad you think that advertisements are meaningless and the customer should just shut up and live with whatever "they" want to graciously give us.
You're a model of your industry.
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fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
"my industry"...? Wow! I need to go look in my bank account again and see how much money I have so I can go roll around in it naked. Thanks for reminding me. Seriously, the last time I was involved in these childish "sides" games, I was also learning ABCs and 123s.. IOW, save that game for the children.
Now, where did I accuse you of "not reading" the TOS? If I recall, from just re-reading my own post, AND YOURS, was that after you claimed the industry abuses terms to "trick" an industry.. that argument has been used clearly born from advertisements, NOT the TOS. The TOS statements, if you OR ANYONE, can't understand them, are clearly playing ignorant or selectively choosing not to understand them; who's fault is that?
I love how you follow up my posts and try to twist my words and change the meaning of what I clearly said. Sounds just like what you're claiming the 'Industry' does.. shame on you.
When you sit there and use (quoted) words like "they" and "graciously give us" it comes back like you have some sort of entitlement. The providers are NOT the government that you mistake them for. These are businesses that have a right to offer their services for what they are. Your right to pick it apart is at the TOS that you say you read so clearly and if you ARE reading them, you'd not be here bitching and moaning about it.
The TOS is not written in the so called 'legal-eez'.. the very items people come here, wasting their lives daily, bitching about are pretty clearly written. I'm glad the main cheer leader, Karl, makes you believe it's hard to understand. If this is the case, some people need to find a new cheer-leader because he's failing you just like so many politicians fail their people.
Finally, I don't think advertisements are meaningless.. however, there IS a problem with the customer using them as "agreements" and further, reading into them much farther than intended. I mean, seriously, around here, people have picked apart Time Warner Cable for using the line "the power of you".. WTF? People are worried if TWC uses the word "fiber" in their ad even though its fiber driven. Why does that same crowd defend providers like Qwest for calling their phone service "digital" because of equipment in the CO even though 1,800 feet of cable transmission is still analog to the home where most of the degradation happens?
Many people HERE are self serving and are selectively choosing to pick their battles. Quite frankly, it simply shows the mentality of many in this country, and its sickening.
Advertisements are just that.. they get you interested in the product. While I do not condone false advertising and SOME merchants out there step on that line, many of the ads being picked apart here by some of you so-called freedom fighters are anything but false. It's those who put some notion that an ad is a user-agreement that get me. It's the very same crowd that admits there IS a TOS agreement and then discloses that they don't read them for a reason that isn't even valid. Besides, if you feel you need an attorney to read or decipher one, then by all means, HIRE ONE! It's your right, and no one is stopping you.. it's surely no excuse not to at least read one.
Now, to put THIS argument to rest, instead of baseless claims, PLEASE by all means, go grab your comcast or favorite hated companies TOS agreement, post it in its entirety and BY ALL MEANS, state exactly what is in the thing that you can't understand and why.. until then, its all baseless blabber.
fiberguyMy views are my own.Premium
I also often use the word "you" as in "some may" etc.
However, when I made that comment, I was referring to the difference between people who use an advertisement as their TOS agreement.
From accounts I read here all the time, I think people are smarter than they play on this site. Rather, they chose to play ignorant at times in order to attempt to establish a point.
Do I think you're stupid? By all means, no. I read and follow your posts much more than many others. We may not always agree on everything; believe it or not, I agree with you more times than not, however, I just do believe that some people's 'wants' here skew the reality of what's behind getting to them.
As I was basically saying is that we all know that an ad is just an ad. (Yes, there is a line that can be crossed) however, people still hold on to the "unlimited access" term which went away years ago.. and people are picking at the "up-to" term a lot, too. (which is explained in the TOS, and as I said, SOME (excuse me) people chose not to read, and even admit it)