[CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced in Inside Insight http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r21198100 en Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:43:00 EDT Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:43:00 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21600022 anon : Oh I see... looks like CABLECARDS are $5.00 a month now.

So that's where this guy is getting $5.00 a month.

Insight has no non PVR HD box, its only if you have a TV with a cablecard slot, which I bet you don't.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21600022 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:14:13 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21600009 anon : There is only TWO WAYS to get HD channels other than local stations which are transmitted in clear QAM.

ALL the other HD channels are strictly proprietary digital cable channels.

There are only TWO/THREE WAYS to get receive them.

a) Get a HD PVR Box from Insight, its $15 per TV. Not a cheap solution at all.

b) Have a TV with a built in CABLECARD slot, and get a cable card from insight which will allow that TV to tune in digital cable stations. Cablecards are $1.50 a month.

- Only problem is that, not very many TV's have cablecard slots anymore, because the cable industry screwed it up the tv mfgr's all pretty much gave up on it. If you have an older HDTV like say 2-3 years+ old, it might have a cable card slot, newer than that they are rare.

c) Have a new HD TIVO PVR, which also has cablecard slots. Again, its only $1.50 a month for the cablecards, but its $500-800 for the TIVO and maybe $15/month for the tivo service.

SO YES... 'additional equipment may be required' = Use our $15/month PVR or you use a Cablecard which not many new TV's even support anymore.

Insight is smoking some SERIOUS GRASS if they really think these are sensible options for their customers.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21600009 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:13:40 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21598248 gadawg : You need basic and classic service and an HD DVR(I think) to get more than the local channels in HD. It will cost you about $60 a month for all that.

I don't know what equipment costs $5.00 per month. Do you have a link for the $5.00 Digital 4.0 equipment?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21598248 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:56:51 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21594665 jamesnmandy : call me weird, but i actually like to stay current on "current events", especially recently, the ability to watch CNN and others in HD is nice, seeing as i have a HDTV & pay for HD service, any time a channel is broadcasting in HD and analog/digital i will always choose HD, even if it is to watch grass grow or senators talk about stupid stuff, anything in HD is better than nothing]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21594665 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:10:02 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21588635 anon : I have a question and was wondering if someone would be able to help me?

I am in the Louisville market and I just got a new LCD HDTV set. Using the digital tuner, I can get the very basic HD programming (WLKY, WHAS, WAVE, etc). Im looking on the Insight website and it states that their cable tv has basic and classic channels. It also has Basic HD Channels (which is what I'm getting with the digital tuner), and Classic HD Channels. There is a little disclaimer that states "HDTV set, Basic Service, and HD receiver required to receive all HD Channels.

Looking further on the website, it stated that the Digital 4.0 equipment costs an extra $5.00 a month.

Am I wrong to assume that if I add the digital 4.0 box for $5.00 more a month, I could be able to get the Classic HD channels that is supposed to be included in the basic cable tv package?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21588635 Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:20:48 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21578532 superakcraig : Just wanted to point out in case no one noticed, we now have ABC Family and Disney in HD in the Louisville market now. I noticed it last night. The 25 days of Christmas might be nice in HD (not that alot of the cartoons they show will be in HD but at least it will be clear).
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said by YogiYahooeys See Profile :

Please Insight, give us some way to configure the guide to take out these useless (regardless of how many choices they have within them) On Demand Channels. Either that or get rid of the channels entirely...
I have to agree. Having all those On Demand channels can really be a pain to search through. If nothing else, put them at the end of the list. Start with 999 and go backwards. Don't put channels then on demand channels then more channels. This organization of channels just doesn't make sense.
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There's just no point... OK, I take that back... I guess the point is to try and sell more on demand programs, but it's ruining the service. Not only that, it's also obviously getting too detailed. If I go to the channel "HD Movies OD Horror & Sci-Fi" what do I find there? First, a menu titled "Sci Fi", I selected that, then I get an option titled "A-Z", and then my final results? "Prom Night - HD". That's it!?! That's why we have a menu dedicated to HD On Demand Horror and Sci Fi? Who thought this up?

Please Insight, give us some way to configure the guide to take out these useless (regardless of how many choices they have within them) On Demand Channels. Either that or get rid of the channels entirely...

Sorry for the rant... just a little frustrated trying to browse through the new channels... :/]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21555499 Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:38:52 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21525102 tspencer : the channels work just fine on my Tivo HD. However until Tivo updates their guide with the new channels (not sure how long) you have to manually tune to the channel. :)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21525102 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:40:04 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523622 Tarik74 : any luck on your end getting the new lineup?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21523622 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:11:03 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21406067 tspencer : I believe so. I have one also.

As always, you wont be able to view the onDemand channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21406067 Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:02:32 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21403057 anon : Would I be able to get the added HD channels if I have tivoHD with cable cards?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21403057 Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:41:15 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396963 bigredtbone : They've added ABC Family HD, Disney HD, ESPNNews HD, ESPNU HD, FX HD, and Weather HD to Bowling Green. I wonder why we didn't get Speed HD too...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396963 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:35:23 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396865 koebner : Good heads up;for Lexington,they have added ESPNNews and ESPNU,as well as Weather and Speed.I like this package more and more as they add to it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396865 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:07:10 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396472 Singular : I just wish that they would quit teasing us and either give us a date of when the channels will be available or just go ahead and activate it already. The anticipation is killing me. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396472 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 14:07:31 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396319 anon : Just a heads up to check the listing of new HD channels for your areas. They just added some. My area now has FXHD, Weather Channel HD, ESPNU HD, ESPNNEWS HD, and the Disney Channel HD listed.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21396319 Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:35:29 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21388737 jamesnmandy : why is that a problem? anything less will stifle progress IMO ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21388737 Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:21:10 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21270621 anon :
said by Chronob :

If they broadcast every channel in digital then every customer would need a cable box on every tv in their homes, or newer TVs with QAM tuners for the unencrypted channels.
Or a converter box... which is already being pushed onto everyone using an anteanna. Why not push it on people with cable too? There's models out there with QAM tuners that aren't much more expensive than the ATSC-only converters. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21270621 Wed, 15 Oct 2008 11:38:53 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21268234 anon : Got a new bill here in Northern KY and the enclosed flyer is about Digital 4.0

Interestingly, it addresses the HD On Demand and says:

"Over 200 great titles in HD to choose from every month. Watch for riveting HD programming from popular channels like AMC, IFC, Ovation, MTV, WE, Fuse, and others."

My bill itself mentions that because of expanded on demand features, all West Coast premium channel feeds are being dropped, which is something I don't think we'd heard before but probably makes sense.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21268234 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:39:33 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21264661 jgegner : I would also like to add my vote for Speed Channel HD as well.

James]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21264661 Tue, 14 Oct 2008 13:08:39 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21259700 anon : i only get the local HD channels will I get any of the new channels ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21259700 Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:12:38 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21250145 Steve73 : Thanks.................]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21250145 Sat, 11 Oct 2008 08:35:26 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21248109 lilhurricane : »/blog/insight]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21248109 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:32:06 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21248070 Steve73 : Where did you see this I would like to read it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21248070 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 19:22:40 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21244992 anon : It looks like Insight has signed a deal with Disney that will allow it to add ESPNU and the Disney Channel in HD. ESPNEWS will also be added in certain markets

That is good news. Now if we can get the Golf Network before the new golf season starts that would be great. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21244992 Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:50:53 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21239668 anon : If they broadcast every channel in digital then every customer would need a cable box on every tv in their homes, or newer TVs with QAM tuners for the unencrypted channels.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21239668 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 10:41:27 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21239317 anon :
said by bigredtbone See Profile :

Yes, Insight receives their signals via satellites. No, this does not make them all OTA. OTA is considered what you can pick up in your house via rabbit ears. That is the only thing that is mandated by the FCC to be digital.

There's also another fatal flaw in your reasoning:

Digital ≠ HD

Just because something is transmitted in a digital format does not mean that it's necessarily in High Definition.
Gotcha.. and I know digital doesn't equal HD, but HD broadcasts can only come in over a digital signal. I was just trying to figure out why they're doing what they're doing. If they're receiving a digital signal for a station (say WGN), why don't they just forward the digital signal to us instead of an analog signal? I'm in Louisville, so WGN is channel 20. Right now it comes in as an analog signal... why can't they just send us the digital signal mapped to channel 20... then when an old rerun or newscast comes on it would be your typical SD, but when something like a Cubs or White Sox game comes on (or anything broadcast in HD), we would get it in HD.

Seems reasonable and they wouldn't be eating up all that bandwith by sending out 70 channels as analog signals. I do understand that your TV would either have to have a QAM tuner or you'd have to have a set top box... but I don't think that would upset too many customers if every channel they got was digital and had the capabilities of carrying a HD broadcast. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21239317 Thu, 09 Oct 2008 09:34:42 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21237631 anon : >Why not just forward the digital signal on to their
>customers?

As part of the FCC digital migration plan, Cable companies are required to provide analog signals for until 2012 for local stations. They can move all the rest to digital if they want but I believe the locals are required to be carried as analog on the cable as well as digital/HD QAM passthrough.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21237631 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:07:25 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21237128 bigredtbone : Yes, Insight receives their signals via satellites. No, this does not make them all OTA. OTA is considered what you can pick up in your house via rabbit ears. That is the only thing that is mandated by the FCC to be digital.

There's also another fatal flaw in your reasoning:

Digital ≠ HD

Just because something is transmitted in a digital format does not mean that it's necessarily in High Definition.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21237128 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 20:33:47 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21233800 anon : I understand that digital is not HD and that the digital transition is for OTA transmissions, however, doesn't Insight receive all their channels OTA?? I've seen Insight hubs that have 50 different satellites pointed in 50 different directions... so I'm assuming this is how the recieve their feeds, and then they amplify and pump those feeds out through their cables.

What I don't understand is after the February deadline, won't they be receiving all digital channels via these satellites? Why would they convert them back to analog (stripping out all the benefits of digital, like HD broadcasts) before pumping them down their cables and to our houses? Doesn't sending those analog signals to our houses eat up most of the bandwith? Why not just forward the digital signal on to their customers? Wouldn't that mean we'd get all HD shows that each particular station sends out? So instead of having to tune into the HD version of a particular station (the 9xx channels)... we could watch the regular channel (non 9xx channel number) and get HD broadcasts for programming that is in HD.

Is it the restrictions of transition? In other words, does their current hardware/configuration create limitation on what they can do and prevent this from happening? Maybe someone could shed a little light?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21233800 Wed, 08 Oct 2008 10:17:38 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21229760 rq234 : It's that way in every market, NKY HD. Whether Insight says "up to 52" ot "up to 60," each market is 6 or 7 channels short of that mark. Maybe Insight has enough bandwidth for that many channels and will get there eventually. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21229760 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 16:05:35 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21229575 anon : Does anyone know why it says "up to 52 HD channels" for the Northern Kentucky area? My count was just 46 HD channels when the new ones are added. Am I missing something here? As far as I know all of my friends who have Insight in this area have the exact same lineup.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21229575 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:19:55 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228822 anon : I would like to add another vote for Speed Channel HD. I was really looking forward to next years Formula One season in HD. I sure hope they add it by then.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21228822 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:19:56 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21226164 bigredtbone :
said by Han Solo :

They have to be wasting a huge amount of signal capacity by transmitting many stations THREE TIMES... take TNT, its on Analog, Digital Cable, and HD. What a waste.
Actually, that's not quite correct. There are only 2 versions of TNT being transmitted - an analog version and an HD version. These are 2 distinct channels. Here in Bowling Green, TNT is on Channel 19 and TNT-HD is 925.

But wait, what about the one on Channel 112? The analog signal is just mapped to that number in addition to being mapped to channel 19. It's not being transmitted twice - it's just mapped to 2 channel numbers. It's not taking any additional bandwidth.

said by Han Solo :

ANYONE NOTICE that they are saying "FREE" if you already receive these channels. So, does that mean you can get the HD channels WITHOUT the digital cable package? I would be happy just dropping the digital cable package if I could get just the analog and HD versions of the stations I liked.
The way Insight works is that it gives you the HD version of a channel if it has an SD/digital counterpart. Right now, to get HD versions of things like TNT, ESPN, TBS, etc., you have to subscribe to the Classic Package (to get the SD version), Insight Digital 3.2 with DVR & HDTV (to get the HD version), the Digital Pack (in order to get HD channels with only a digital counterpart).

The HD Pack that Insight has (and charges $7.95/mo. for) has channels with no SD/digital counterpart: HDNet, HDNet Movies, Universal HD, HD Theatre.

The whole "FREE" thing means that none of the new channels will be going in this extra package. If it has an SD/digital counterpart (A&E, CNN, Bravo, USA, CNBC, Fox Biz, etc.), and you meet the above requirements to get HD channels in the first place, then you'll get it for free.

The only exceptions are Starz and Cinemax, and obviously you have to subscribe to those premium services to get those channels.

Hope that helps clarify things!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21226164 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:25:48 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21225115 anon : Actually I am sort of impressed. I was starting to think it would be a LONG time before Insight got nearly this many additional HD channels.

My guess is that they are taking the TOP-x channels from their recent survey and adding them.

For some of the others that have fewer viewers like The Golf Channel, they will probably be added in ones and twos in the future.

Although, I thought that they were going to have to upgrade to Docsis version 3 or whatever to get they bandwidth required for so many HD channels before they could really compete with Satellite.

I thought it would be a long time before that happened and hence a long time before many HD channels showed up.

Personally, I think that they would be much better off just dropping the whole 'digital cable' thing and just keeping the traditional ANALOG for the non-HD, and using that extra bandwidth to add additional HD channels.

I can't tell the difference between the signals on 'Digital Cable', and a properly connected analog cable signal (good cable, not a dozen splitters etc).

They have to be wasting a huge amount of signal capacity by transmitting many stations THREE TIMES... take TNT, its on Analog, Digital Cable, and HD. What a waste.

ANYONE NOTICE that they are saying "FREE" if you already receive these channels. So, does that mean you can get the HD channels WITHOUT the digital cable package? I would be happy just dropping the digital cable package if I could get just the analog and HD versions of the stations I liked.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21225115 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 19:14:49 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21222233 anon : I have been talking to a friend that works at Insight and they informed me that Insight Digital 4.0 is set to release in November or December. They did not have the exact date but that they are "testing" it in select markets to see how it is working. They did not mention to me other channels that they would be adding in the future. It looks like we are stuck with what we got. And I am sure hoping that it will be before December before we get these channels added.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21222233 Mon, 06 Oct 2008 10:29:22 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21221832 babacher : I'm glad to have more HD choices, but the only thing I was craving in HD is Speed Channel... and it ain't on the list.

It's available from DirecTV, but I'd have to pay a lot more per month.
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said by TBC1 See Profile :

said by bigredtbone See Profile :

Insight isn't taking HD seriously, no cable provider is. They have no choice, they all have to broadcast in HD by Feb. 17, 2009. It isn't like they are offering us these channels as upgrades, they are just going ahead a bit before the deadline. Realistically, they should have been offering more sooner than this anyway. If they try charging me for HD channels that come with my basic package that has to be HD by law, I won't be using Insight anymore.
I may be mistaken, but the February date is not to broadcast in HD, but to broadcast a digital signal. There is a difference between digital and HD. Besides, the Febuary date is strictly for over the air networks. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21220936 Sun, 05 Oct 2008 23:19:17 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21216995 rq234 : Broadcasting in digital is not broadcasting in HD. You're confusing the analog to digital transition with HD.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21216995 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 23:34:34 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21215969 Singular : I was pretty sure cable providers were not required to change their broadcasting to all digital. It was only over the air transmissions that were going to change. Anything that insight does goes over a wire so they are actually offering us upgrades and not doing something because the government says they have to.

I meant to quote TBC1 too. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21215969 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 18:00:25 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21215783 TBC1 :
said by bigredtbone See Profile :

I don't personally consider On Demand choices, especially when done like this, as pure "channels", but Insight apparently does, and that brings the total up to 51 HD channels in BG (52 if you include both CBS channels in HD).

Still, I'm *very* excited about these additions. Thank you Insight for taking HD more seriously!
Insight isn't taking HD seriously, no cable provider is. They have no choice, they all have to broadcast in HD by Feb. 17, 2009. It isn't like they are offering us these channels as upgrades, they are just going ahead a bit before the deadline. Realistically, they should have been offering more sooner than this anyway. If they try charging me for HD channels that come with my basic package that has to be HD by law, I won't be using Insight anymore.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21215783 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 17:03:47 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21214430 rq234 : Bigred, you're right about each market having fewer channels than the amount listed. Each market seems to be five or six under. Louisville says up to 60, but currently is at 53 even with all those alleged channels of on demand. I'm hoping that means some of the channels like Versus who get their own HD channel on December 8 will be added at that time. But I'm greedy, so I'm also hoping for the NHL Network. Yeah, that one is a pipe dream, but I can't help it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21214430 Sat, 04 Oct 2008 09:42:36 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21210124 galileo757 : Yeah for CNBC HD+, the show DEF has some hawt babes (eases the pain of loses and heightens the enjoyment of gains *grins), too bad insight 4.0 does not offer HD channels for HBO on demand.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21210124 Fri, 03 Oct 2008 12:04:05 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21208768 Matt_31 : ive been waiting years for the NBA channel. I had it when I was with direct tv (years and years ago) and man for being in a basketball area you would think this market would have it. :(
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I'm also curious as to how they came up with the total numbers. In Bowling Green, Columbus, and Louisville, it says "Up to 60". In Evansville, it's 59. In Lexington, it's 56 (no Big Ten HD or WGN9CW). In Northern KY, it's 52 (no Big Ten, Bravo HD, CNBC HD+ or Fox Biz HD). However, in Bowling Green, I can only count 52 HD channels. I'd be interested to know the math behind things.

As to the channels they added, there are some good things in there. USA HD (Monk, Psych, In Plain Sight, and Law and Order: CI in HD), Sci-Fi HD, Food Network HD (I've heard of a lot of good shows on there). Unlike everyone else apparently, I'm looking forward to the news channels in HD. I do some investing, so CNBC HD+ is one I'm glad about.

Could it be better? Absolutely.

Weather Channel HD - I'm very surprised about this one. I fully expected it to be on this list and am at a loss as to why it wasn't added.
ESPNU HD - This was only launched on August 28th, so I didn't really expect it. I expect to see it, ESPNNews, ABC Family, and Disney Channel HD when Disney renegotiates its agreement with Insight.
Versus HD - They're launching separate feeds of Versus and Golf Channel HD on December 8th. It may be that Insight wanted to wait for this to happen before adding them, and it may be in "Insight Digital 4.5" or whatever the next numbering scheme is. (BTW, Mr. Willner -- you don't haave to wait to launch a bunch of channels at once. I don't think any of us would complain if you just randomly added an HD channel here and there! =-) )

While not the greatest, we're still going to be up to about 40 HD channels, which is a vast improvement. We'll get there... eventually. =-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21207555 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 22:19:52 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21203854 rq234 : I already stated that I was disappointed, but after further review, some of the "additions" are actually funny. Ambient HD, Fearnet HD, Nat Geo HD and Sundance HD on demand are all listed as new in Louisville. They've been available since got the HD/DVR box a month ago. So how are those new? I won't even bother trying to figure out these on demand options constitute seperate channels.

I don't mean to sound like an ingrate, these additions are better than nothing and most are free, but it seems Insight could have done a better job of selecting new HD offerings that would appeal to more people. I can't imagine the likes of the Weather Channel, Versus or ESPNU are asking too much to have their HD channels placed on Insight. Oh well.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21203854 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:23:04 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21203608 anon : Looks like NKY is getting the shaft, 52 HD channels where the other markets are getting 60. I have no idea why all of us in NKY are getting less than the others.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21203608 Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:42:47 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21201552 Singular : I have to agree I don't watch enough news to want to see those people in HD. I mean really. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21201552 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:46:07 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21201186 lilhurricane : ...guess you can never make all people happy all the time :)

It'd good to hear they're listening anyways.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21201186 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:32:56 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21201172 superakcraig :
said by FuzzyLogik See Profile :

I am underwhelmed about the channel choices as well, but I am just happy to receive more HD content period...
I have to agree with you on this as well. I am happy to have more HD content including Starz, USA, and SciFi but I have to question the news channels?????

Plus if shivvy is correct about AMC being stretched....to me that channel will be useless just like TBS. TBSHD is the most worthless channel in our current lineup. Someone in their engineering department needs to learn ASPECT RATIO!! Bunch of tools!!!
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I suppose it's easier to get favorable contracts from some companies than others, but if this really is the best Insight can do, they shouldn't bother. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21199671 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:01:59 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21199163 bigredtbone :
said by dishrich See Profile :

said by bigredtbone See Profile :

WGN9-CW HD (new) - BG's local CW doesn't broadcast HD
Sorry to tell you this, but I GUARANTEE you are not getting WGN9-CW down in Bowling Green - you are getting WGN America, which does NOT carry CW prog.
WGN9-CW prog is NOT cleared for national distribution outside the Chicago DMA within the rest of the US - Insight would never be able to get clearance to carry it. Insight evidently is using the wrong logo for WGN America.
Well, that's OK by me - I never watch it anyway.

As for being disappointed by the on-demand "channels", I am too. However, I am excited that we're at least catching up in HD offerings, and that we're getting what we are. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21199163 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:20:55 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21198785 dishrich :
said by bigredtbone See Profile :

WGN9-CW HD (new) - BG's local CW doesn't broadcast HD
Sorry to tell you this, but I GUARANTEE you are not getting WGN9-CW down in Bowling Green - you are getting WGN America, which does NOT carry CW prog.
WGN9-CW prog is NOT cleared for national distribution outside the Chicago DMA within the rest of the US - Insight would never be able to get clearance to carry it. Insight is using the wrong logo for WGN America.

And as an ex-Insight sub, that's not a bad HD lineup. At least you guys are getting things like Travel HD, which NEITHER cc or DirecTV is carrying. :mad:]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21198785 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:08:56 EDT Re: [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21198608 anon : Very disappointed with the new channels that are being offered. There are so many On-Demand channels and not that many "new" HD channels. I was hoping for ESPNEWS/ESPN U, Versus/Golf and a few other non sports channels. This will definitely have me looking into other options for TV viewing. Direct TV and Dish Network is sounding pretty good right now. Lets just say if this is all that we get from Insight then I am very disappointed in them. I will keep the internet and phone but I will have to really think about keeping them as my provider for cable. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21198608 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:39:50 EDT [CATV] Insight Digital 4.0 - New HD Channels Announced http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21198100 bigredtbone : Insight has launched it's Insight Digital 4.0 Website (»www.insightdigital40.com). From here, you can get a listing of the HD channels coming to your area. For Bowling Green, our lineup will now include the following:

A&E HD (new)
ABC HD
AMC HD (new)
Animal Planet HD
Big Ten HD (new)
Bravo HD (new)
CBS HD
Cinemax HD (new)
CNBC HD+ (new)
CNN HD (new)
Discovery HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
Food Network HD (new)
Fox Business HD (new)
Fox HD
Fox News HD (new)
HBO HD
HD Theater
HDNet
HDNet Movies
HGTV HD (new)
History Channel HD (new)
National Geographic HD
NBC HD
NFL HD
Palladia HD
PBS HD
Science Channel HD (new)
Sci-Fi HD (new)
Showtime HD
Special Events HD
Starz HD (new)
TBS HD
TLC HD
TNT HD
Travel HD (new)
Universal HD
USA HD (new)
WGN9-CW HD (new) - BG's local CW doesn't broadcast HD

That's 40 regular HD channels. There are also several new HD On Demand "channels":

Ambient HD On Demand
FearNet HD
HD Movies On Demand
HD Movies On Demand - Action
HD Movies On Demand - Comedy
HD Movies On Demand - Drama
HD Movies On Demand - Horror & Sci-Fi
HD Movies On Demand - Kids
HD On Demand
National Geographic HD On Demand
Sundance Channel HD On Demand

I don't personally consider On Demand choices, especially when done like this, as pure "channels", but Insight apparently does, and that brings the total up to 51 HD channels in BG (52 if you include both CBS channels in HD).

Still, I'm *very* excited about these additions. Thank you Insight for taking HD more seriously!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,21198100 Wed, 01 Oct 2008 12:13:31 EDT